legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington

[coachcw]

First of all every time primitive equipment get advancements ie lighted nocks we loose something in terms of the season

 With all due respect, you are sounding like a liberal politician.

 Please show me evidence of losing seasons as a result of equipment advancement!

Come on phool  you know where I sand on politics. just because we have no big foot evidence does that mean he doesn't exist ?

[coachcw]

just because a Mathews bow wont fly a fixed blade phool ?

[coachcw]

lets not forget that a mechanical broad head is also barbed so that would open up  another issue with arrows hanging into poorly shot animals its all about image right ?

[huntnphool]

First of all every time primitive equipment get advancements ie lighted nocks we loose something in terms of the season

 With all due respect, you are sounding like a liberal politician.

 Please show me evidence of losing seasons as a result of equipment advancement!

Come on phool  you know where I sand on politics. just because we have no big foot evidence does that mean he doesn't exist ?

 Just keeping it real.

 The fact is, seasons have never been lost as a result of equipment technology. This narrative is thrown out there by special interests in a effort to sway opinion, is categorically untrue, and has no relevance in these discussions.

[coachcw]

First of all every time primitive equipment get advancements ie lighted nocks we loose something in terms of the season

 With all due respect, you are sounding like a liberal politician.

 Please show me evidence of losing seasons as a result of equipment advancement!

Come on phool  you know where I sand on politics. just because we have no big foot evidence does that mean he doesn't exist ?

 Just keeping it real.

 The fact is, seasons have never been lost as a result of equipment technology. This narrative is thrown out there by special interests in a effort to sway opinion, is categorically untrue, and has no relevance in these discussions.

my bad if that's not true , I've been told it has a influence on the cessions when setting seasons by people higher up the chain than I. could just be hear say  .

[coachcw]

I was thinking back to plenty of elk I've killed with a bow and I'm no saint that's never made a poor shot or lost a animal ( I have came to grips with that) I can honestly say that I cant think of any elk I have lost that would have been harvested with a mechanical . I can say two elk for sure may not have be recovered with one both where hits a lil forward in the scap that made it through into the boiler . that's my best argument against them . I does drive me crazy how many you see out in the box stores (im sure guys buy and hunt with them ) they need to be labeled better on the shelf.

[follow maggie]

Field & Stream had an interesting article on this last month: http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2014/11/broadhead-test-fixed-blades-vs-mechanicals

[Boss .300 winmag]

ya'll are missing the real reason they're outlawed in WA


With a fixed broad head the animal has a better chance at recovering and healing from a bad shot then with a mechanical. 


That's the theory I've always heard, and it sounds logical.

 

[popeshawnpaul]

I have used them and killed multiple deer with expandables.  I have killed numerous deer and elk with fixed blade heads.  I would not recommend expandables to be used on elk.  I tried to get WSB and WDFW to make expandables only legal for deer.  WSB voted 6-3 to allow expandables for deer & elk.  I was one of the 3 "nays".  I would vote "yay" if it were for only deer.

[coachcw]

I have used them and killed multiple deer with expandables.  I have killed numerous deer and elk with fixed blade heads.  I would not recommend expandables to be used on elk.  I tried to get WSB and WDFW to make expandables only legal for deer.  WSB voted 6-3 to allow expandables for deer & elk.  I was one of the 3 "nays".  I would vote "yay" if it were for only deer.

yeah its tough when the season over laps , who would carry both types , I just don't see the benefit.

[RubblesPH]

Pope - just curious, you mention that you have killed several buck with expandables but would not recommend them on elk.  Not questioning your judgement, just curious why you wouldn't use them. Glad to see your back on here. 

[RadSav]

Field & Stream had an interesting article on this last month: http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2014/11/broadhead-test-fixed-blades-vs-mechanicals

Interesting article.  The 7% improvement on mechanicals may have to do with quality of blades.  Very few expandables outside Rocket have poor or dull blades.  There are a bunch of poor or dull blades in fixed broadheads.  Would be cool if they were able to list the heads involved and see if there were a certain theme to failures!  I'd be willing to bet the theme would be easily recognized.

Flight has little to do with the broadhead shape and almost everything to do with arrow build.  So that is not a surprise.  Number one question people ask me is how our broadheads fly.  They get a little upset when I tell them they fly perfect...just like every other broadhead I've ever shot.  And that is literally hundreds of different heads! Some are considerably quieter which means better aerodynamics in general, but combine with a well built arrow and they are going to fly just great!

Sure wish more people would concern themselves with how sharp the head is and how well it stays sharp rather than how they fly, how they hold up to sinter blocks or how they penetrate plywood.  Always best to wait for the animal to step out from behind the shed before you shoot at them

[Nice Racks]

Tiffany just shot a bull with one; they must be OK then. 

[AntlerHound]

Don't have to much experience bow hunting... Thought you all might like this video.. You will need a youtube account to watch   

http://youtu.be/dxP6JrRv6Ks

[AZcoueshunter78]

I have had alot of experience with mechanical broadheads as i have never shot anything but. I have had great penetration and complete pass thrus on hogs rams and elk.all have been quick lethal and humane shots that led to very short recoveries. I have seen first hand testing of several manufacturers of their broadheads and the rigorous test they put them thru ( like repeatedly shooting the same arrow thru a moose antler until the blade finally breaks , i believe it was around 14-20 shots) the ones i have always used are in no way barbed and close up upon pulling it out. I for one being new to this state would love to see them legalize mechanical broadheads in WA. But until they do i will need to find an acceptable replacement for my vortex and my deadringer rampage 3 hybrid's. Just my 2 cents on the topic.