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Offline Greg Mullins

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2015, 09:18:07 AM »
I dont care.I LIKE MY T's but I do care to be able to choose.I worry more about having nowhere to go use them.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2015, 08:49:56 PM »
Ok, so my thoughts on michanicals is not with there attractiveness so much as you can see there have been a lot of improvements made with them and they probably work fine.
My concern is there are a lot of people out there that don't understand how important a well tuned bow and arrow is to shooting accuracy. These people hear how mechanicals shoot like field points when their fixed blades won't so they go buy the mechanicals and never learn to tune their bows. This doesn't make them better shots or hunters.

Will making mechanicals legal turn into more hunters taking more poor shots and wounding more animals?
Or,will it help poor shoppers make better shots? (I can't believe that)


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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2015, 09:16:27 PM »
Ok, so my thoughts on michanicals is not with there attractiveness so much as you can see there have been a lot of improvements made with them and they probably work fine.
My concern is there are a lot of people out there that don't understand how important a well tuned bow and arrow is to shooting accuracy. These people hear how mechanicals shoot like field points when their fixed blades won't so they go buy the mechanicals and never learn to tune their bows. This doesn't make them better shots or hunters.

Will making mechanicals legal turn into more hunters taking more poor shots and wounding more animals?
Or,will it help poor shoppers make better shots? (I can't believe that)

I agree with people need to tune their bows. BUT...... The people who dont tune their bows now probably wont ever anyways. I would rather them be able to make more accurate shots if mechanicals in fact will help with that. That means instead of the lazy type of person who doesn't tune and doesnt practice shooting possibly 2 deer or elk in a season because they make a bad shot and lose one and it dies somewhere to just shooting one if these broadheads make them more accurate. Im all for that. That means 1 more animal out there that I get a chance at. I love my shuttle t's but would also love the opportunity to shoot a deer with a mechanical broadhead. I feel with my bow I would even be comfortable taking bear and elk with them as well since I shoot 320ish fps. With that being said i have watched a lot of videos on mechanicals and if they make it legal might try schwackers, the blades seems stronger than the rage from what I've seen.

I would like to know what are your guys favorite mechanicals?

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2015, 09:58:44 PM »
I would like to know what are your guys favorite mechanicals?

I've played with most of the expendables on the market.  Most get the nose up, don't like them, fly no better/no worse than my Savora heads reaction.  But, I must admit that the Rage Hypodermic was very hard not to like.  It is still a two blade broadhead, which I stay clear of, and at 2" cutting diameter penetration is always a little disappointing for a two blade.  However, most of this is offset by some really great machining, nice blades, reliable blade deployment, removal from targets is easy and the compact size is impressive for such a wide blade configuration.  If I had to choose a favorite mechanical right now, I think this one would probably be it...even with the two blade profile.
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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2015, 07:00:53 AM »
The hypodermic did look slick.  I get just as big of holes with the grizz trick 2 as they were showing in that video.  Do you plan on making an expandable rad?  lumenocks with expandables would make for some cool kill shots on video.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2015, 07:21:42 AM »
This broadhhead is a combination of a mechanical and fixed.  I used a helix two blade which is a cut on contact and twice the thickness as most blades.   

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2015, 07:26:25 AM »
Here is a picture of the broadhead closed up.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2015, 10:46:07 AM »
Do you plan on making an expandable rad?  lumenocks with expandables would make for some cool kill shots on video.

No plans at this time.  Though you never know when another bright idea will come along.

Why would expendables make for any more of a cool video than a regular broadhead? :dunno:
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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2015, 06:43:59 PM »
I ment the luminock.  But yeah.  You should put one out if made legal in wa might be the best seller, you never know.  Sometimes what sells isn't always what works the best.  But if it sells who cares right.  Regardless I'll probably stick to fixed blades.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2015, 08:32:43 PM »
Guess I should not have passed my blade locking system for expendables to WASP years ago :chuckle:  But at that time I was thinking, "Why would I ever want to make an expandable broadhead?"  Still not sure why I would want to, but maybe I'll change my mind some day.

I'll take the flight of the Vandyke head over any expandable on the market today.  The thing is crazy good even in wind.  Of course it is not a 2" two blade, but so far no animal has complained about that ;)
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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2015, 08:46:36 PM »
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Mechs will never be legal in WA. We have a no barb rule, a 40lb min hunt weight with a 300grn min arrow weight, and big tough animals like roosevelt elk. The trend to build arrows and equipment for when everything goes right instead of when everything goes wrong is a different story altogether.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2015, 08:59:25 PM »
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Mechs will never be legal in WA. We have a no barb rule, a 40lb min hunt weight with a 300grn min arrow weight, and big tough animals like roosevelt elk.

Most of todays expendables are not barbed.  As long as they can rotate forward I see no reason to make them illegal.  Doubtful I would ever shoot an elk with one, but my personal preference should have no bearing on legality.  As I've posted before, I'd take a guy shooting a sharp expandable any day over a guy shooting a dull fixed blade, Toxic or an Atom.
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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2015, 09:06:30 PM »
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Mechs will never be legal in WA. We have a no barb rule, a 40lb min hunt weight with a 300grn min arrow weight, and big tough animals like roosevelt elk.

Most of todays expendables are not barbed.  As long as they can rotate forward I see no reason to make them illegal.  Doubtful I would ever shoot an elk with one, but my personal preference should have no bearing on legality.  As I've posted before, I'd take a guy shooting a sharp expandable any day over a guy shooting a dull fixed blade, Toxic or an Atom.
Most? Maybe,  but our current laws wouldn't allow the rest.

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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2015, 09:08:34 PM »
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Mechs will never be legal in WA. We have a no barb rule, a 40lb min hunt weight with a 300grn min arrow weight, and big tough animals like roosevelt elk. The trend to build arrows and equipment for when everything goes right instead of when everything goes wrong is a different story altogether.
Well, you are right and wrong  here.  Mechanicals will be legal this year: that's the only part that you're wrong about.  Heavy, solid stuff will always be tougher,and that's where you're right.  I like to see someone have an arrow over 500 grains for elk.  If 600 was the minimum to enter a deer in Pope and Young,  then we'd only see pass-throughs on the television: THAT'S ALL.  I personally like my elk arrows in the 550-650 range, and that's hard to do with what's available now.
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Re: legalizing mechanical broadheads in Washington
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2015, 06:59:03 AM »
:beatdeadhorse:

Mechs will never be legal in WA. We have a no barb rule, a 40lb min hunt weight with a 300grn min arrow weight, and big tough animals like roosevelt elk. The trend to build arrows and equipment for when everything goes right instead of when everything goes wrong is a different story altogether.
Well, you are right and wrong  here.  Mechanicals will be legal this year: that's the only part that you're wrong about.  Heavy, solid stuff will always be tougher,and that's where you're right.  I like to see someone have an arrow over 500 grains for elk.  If 600 was the minimum to enter a deer in Pope and Young,  then we'd only see pass-throughs on the television: THAT'S ALL.  I personally like my elk arrows in the 550-650 range, and that's hard to do with what's available now.
Well that would be great for the folks who believe in mechs. I just dont see the state rewriting that many archery equipment laws in order to accommodate mechs, which we all know would have to be done.

 


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