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Author Topic: Whitman County’s first probable instance of wolf killing livestock reported  (Read 16542 times)

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"end or destroy hunting" is a bit too strong of language, there'll always be birds to hunt  8)

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idahohntr has lost all credibility in this thread. KF, don't even bother getting into the mud with him. Let him sink on his own.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace

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idahohntr has lost all credibility in this thread. KF, don't even bother getting into the mud with him. Let him sink on his own.

I'm glad he's here P-man.   He helps get the word out by keeping the dialog going.   Without IDH the wolf section would be all slanted one way and easier for those who are slightly pro-wolf to write us all off as wolf haters and be done with it.  New comers with the Disney wolf blinders on will initially identify with IDH giving all his posts a  :tup: and basically be part of his fan club for a time...but with a little patience and solid logic they eventually drift off with a kernel of doubt they didn't have before.  It takes patience though and not belittlement or anger.

You can always tell when no one's left in IDH's fan club,  he  :tup: his own posts  :chuckle:


Here's to you IDH   :brew:


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Here's a little quote for you fellas that always want to turn a wolf thread into conversation about me personally:

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - TR

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Love it

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Here's a little quote for you fellas that always want to turn a wolf thread into conversation about me personally:

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt

When, you challenged me for my response to another member as "exaggeration", I dissected your erroneous retort piece by piece and there was no further discussion from you because you were wrong. But you wouldn't admit that. So, where does that put you in Eleanor Roosevelt's quote? You didn't discuss ideas or even events. You only tried to make me look bad and you failed. When you're faced off for it you run away from the discussion or make more stuff up. Nice quote but if it's taken at its word, you have a "small mind". Your quote, not mine.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace

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I disagree with your assessment and have no obligation to provide a rebuttal.  I appreciate it when you focus on the topic and refrain from talking about me...describe the research you've done documenting the impacts of wolves in Washington and don't worry about referencing my credibility and you would be sticking to the tenets of the quote.  I have no interest in making you look bad; I'm sure you care as much about wildlife and hunting as I do.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - TR

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Your response to my post was incorrect. It's too bad you can't admit to it when you're wrong. Nothing I'd said was exaggerated.
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace

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"Fladgry is a fence line with red flagging hanging from it,” Luers said. “It's a European method developed that works very well with canines.”


ya  :rolleyes:


I mean it's not like other states haven't been dealing with this for years yet WDFW wants to spout off feel good garbage that they know doesn't work.
http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/the-exterminators/Content?oid=1137944
« Last Edit: December 10, 2014, 06:50:54 PM by KFhunter »

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Good read thanks kf. Sounds like I need a job at ws
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/18/in-brief-wolf-attacks-are-suspected-cause-of/     

Looks like more sheep killed and guard dog missing.     >:(     
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We knew that news was coming, once wolves start killing livestock they don't stop. Thanks for posting :tup:

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"Fladgry is a fence line with red flagging hanging from it,” Luers said. “It's a European method developed that works very well with canines.”


ya  :rolleyes:


I mean it's not like other states haven't been dealing with this for years yet WDFW wants to spout off feel good garbage that they know doesn't work.
http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/the-exterminators/Content?oid=1137944

Started thinking, why does it have to be a red flag. Every time I see this I think it's a bunch of crap. Canines only see in shades of blue, yellow, and gray.

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Humans killed by wolves in North America last year: 0
Cows killed by wolves last year in Oregon: 5
Humans killed by cows nationwide: 20
Cows and calves in Oregon that died from all causes- disease, birth, cars, etc.-  prior to market (approx.): 52,000
Cows killed by trucks in or near Madras, Oregon: 40

The ONE item not mentioned about the above,  SOME deaths of livestock are covered by Insurance company's, where as Wolf kills will not be paid for at the present.
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