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Offline Sagebrushwilly

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Clafification please
« on: December 13, 2014, 10:30:46 AM »
This measure would extend criminal and public safety background
checks to all gun sales or transfers. Background checks would not be
required for gifts between immediate family members or for antiques.


Sec. 2. RCW 9.41.010 and 2013 c 183 s 2 are each amended to read
as follows:
Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the definitions in
this section apply throughout this chapter.
(1) "Antique firearm" means a firearm or replica of a firearm not
designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire
ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898,
including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of
ignition system and also any firearm using fixed ammunition
manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer
manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the
ordinary channels of commercial trade.

I've read (or tried to) the law and most topics concerning I-594 here and
have come to the conclusion that modern in-line muzzleloading rifles and
pistols would not qualify, but by the above definition, caplock, flintlock rifles
and revolvers would qualify as Antique weapons.  They are replicas and have
not been modified to use to use rimfire, centerfire ignition or use fixed ammunition.

Am I missing something?

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Re: Clafification please
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 01:06:37 PM »
This measure would extend criminal and public safety background
checks to all gun sales or transfers. Background checks would not be
required for gifts between immediate family members or for antiques.


Sec. 2. RCW 9.41.010 and 2013 c 183 s 2 are each amended to read
as follows:
Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the definitions in
this section apply throughout this chapter.
(1) "Antique firearm" means a firearm or replica of a firearm not
designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire
ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898,
including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of
ignition system and also any firearm using fixed ammunition
manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer
manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the
ordinary channels of commercial trade.

I've read (or tried to) the law and most topics concerning I-594 here and
have come to the conclusion that modern in-line muzzleloading rifles and
pistols would not qualify, but by the above definition, caplock, flintlock rifles
and revolvers would qualify as Antique weapons.  They are replicas and have
not been modified to use to use rimfire, centerfire ignition or use fixed ammunition.

Am I missing something?

Seems like the red portion negates the blue portion unless the replica itself was made before 1898 since it refers to the firearm being manufactured, not the design itself.   :dunno:

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Re: Clafification please
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 01:19:38 PM »
"...and manufactured in or before 1898,"

As I read it, that condition must also be true. Therefore modern muzzleloaders would not be exempt.
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Re: Clafification please
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 11:54:23 AM »
According the the management of the two major gun dealers in my area, they will not be doing transfers or background checks on any black powder rifles, inline or otherwise.  That's the way it is "for now", they both said.  So you can go into Cabelas or Skagit Arms and buy a Knight rifle right off the shelf no questions asked.

They are still writing this law.  That's what irks me about the initiative.  It was pretty vague, and now they can write it the way they like it.   :twocents:

 


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