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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2015, 04:35:02 PM »
If the folks were all dressed in suits and jackets with concealed carry one would have a very different perception than if the Clampits came down out the hills packing ARs - the motive is the same, the goals are the same, but the two versions would not be accepted the same way.

This isn't a fringe group nor a fringe issue, it's a 2a issue and 99% of us on this forum are gun owners affected in some way by 594


It would have been nice to see well dressed professional types with concealed carry's doing it though.

You're absolutely right. It is a 2A issue, and here's the problem: prior to this demonstration, the open carry of firearms was allowed in the chamber. They could've legally gone in with sidearms, not making any more fuss than going in with a briefcase, and the issue wouldn't have been on anyone's radar. However, some geniuses decided that the chamber was a good place to actually wave guns around. As a result, they're doing what amounts to restricting our 2A rights. When your observance of your personal right to bear arms includes a display which calls attention to that right in what is to many, an aggressive and threatening behavior, they then have no problem when the government says "no" to your rights.
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2015, 06:15:36 PM »
good for them show we aren't gona take it any more Boo Hiss on the legislatures for wetting themselves!
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2015, 08:42:11 PM »
They sure didn't help the cause. They hurt it.
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2015, 09:06:26 PM »
I am not sure what this group was thinking.  Guns aren't toys and shouldn't be waived around.  A couple of them look a little on the unsafe side as well.  Look at the muzzle direction on the two that I circled.  I wouldn't want to be the person standing next to them if this is what they consider safe..

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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2015, 09:13:28 PM »
good for them show we aren't gona take it any more Boo Hiss on the legislatures for wetting themselves!
But they are going to take it. They just lost their right for open carry!
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2015, 05:33:49 AM »
good for them show we aren't gona take it any more Boo Hiss on the legislatures for wetting themselves!
But they are going to take it. They just lost their our right for open carry!

Fixed it for you.
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2015, 07:15:32 AM »
Thank you. :tup:
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2015, 07:43:27 AM »
good for them show we aren't gona take it any more Boo Hiss on the legislatures for wetting themselves!

We already had the right. The same guys who helped us at Starbucks and Target helped us in the legislative chamber. Thanks guys!  :tup: And 90% of everyone who saw that picture on the front page of the ST is thinking, "Those guys are nuts! Something should be done about that." That picture will likely become the poster of the registration movement that's about to begin.

I have the 1st Amendment right to stand in a cop's face and swear at him. I choose to keep that right and not exercise it to a point where the rest of the public thinks that there are times when our 1st Amendment rights should be void. I will fight for my right to bear arms, but I'll be damned if that means I'll purposely alienate myself from the majority by shoving it in their faces and scaring them.
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2015, 07:49:58 AM »
good for them show we aren't gona take it any more Boo Hiss on the legislatures for wetting themselves!



I have the 1st Amendment right to stand in a cop's face and swear at him. I choose to keep that right and not exercise it to a point where the rest of the public thinks that there are times when our 1st Amendment rights should be void. I will fight for my right to bear arms, but I'll be damned if that means I'll purposely alienate myself from the majority by shoving it in their faces and scaring them.


We have a winner!

Keep exercising those rights to the extreme folks.....that way when the majority is alienated enough they will damn sure make sure restrictions pass oh so easy!

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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2015, 01:57:46 PM »
Maybe they are antis looking to play the part and use bad behavior to shift public opinion to their real side.

I fail to see this as bad behavior. If simply being legally armed in an act of peaceful protest is bad behavior then we are all in trouble. Does it look good to the stay at home soccer mom? probably not. But this is no different than the other 2A rallies at the capitol.

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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2015, 04:31:34 PM »
Alan Gottlieb, founder and chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, said in an email Monday that the move by the legislative chambers was “the result of a few stupid extremists on our side who not only handled their firearms unsafely, but made the hundreds of Second Amendment supporters at the rally look foolish.”
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2015, 04:53:56 PM »
Maybe they are antis looking to play the part and use bad behavior to shift public opinion to their real side.

I fail to see this as bad behavior. If simply being legally armed in an act of peaceful protest is bad behavior then we are all in trouble. Does it look good to the stay at home soccer mom? probably not. But this is no different than the other 2A rallies at the capitol.
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Not only is it different, but it's exactly the opposite. You must remember that those rallies on the steps of the statehouse were about rights that we lost un I594. This demonstration in the chamber is the opposite. They took the rights we had (we were allowed to open carry in the legislative chamber), and through their outrageousness, lost us those rights.
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2015, 05:15:31 PM »
Maybe they are antis looking to play the part and use bad behavior to shift public opinion to their real side.

I fail to see this as bad behavior. If simply being legally armed in an act of peaceful protest is bad behavior then we are all in trouble. Does it look good to the stay at home soccer mom? probably not. But this is no different than the other 2A rallies at the capitol.
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Not only is it different, but it's exactly the opposite. You must remember that those rallies on the steps of the statehouse were about rights that we lost un I594. This demonstration in the chamber is the opposite. They took the rights we had (we were allowed to open carry in the legislative chamber), and through their outrageousness, lost us those rights.

The open carry movement chalked up another ban due to there lack of common sense.  The way the media has made everyone afraid of assault rifles as said, it's the quickest way to freak the uniformed out and get banned.   :bash:
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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2015, 05:18:26 PM »
I wouldn't have a problem with banning guns in the chamber.....but it should be mandatory that anywhere guns are banned security must be in place with controlled entry/exit and metal detectors.

If there's no security then I want to provide my own.

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Re: BANNING GUNS IN LEGISLATURE CHAMBER
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2015, 06:37:01 PM »
Gotta represent!


 


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