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Quote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:52:59 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:47:54 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:39:36 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out I don't know where you got the "now" part?? It's always been a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. whatever I never knew that not until now never heard of such a thing.seems like a stupid law anyhows arrest someone for removing a small pebble or colorfull rock OMG!
Quote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:47:54 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:39:36 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out I don't know where you got the "now" part?? It's always been a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. whatever I never knew that not until now never heard of such a thing.
Quote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:39:36 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out I don't know where you got the "now" part?? It's always been a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands.
Quote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out
Quote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.)
Can you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit.
Quote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:56:20 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:52:59 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:47:54 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:39:36 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out I don't know where you got the "now" part?? It's always been a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. whatever I never knew that not until now never heard of such a thing.seems like a stupid law anyhows arrest someone for removing a small pebble or colorfull rock OMG!Just like being arrested for not wearing the safety bracelet on a jetski.And just think, prior to 1979 you could be arrested for literally any offense in WA.
Quote from: mfswallace on January 20, 2015, 10:41:13 PMSince any kind of removal of rocks, minerals, flowers and as I was told by a park ranger today even sheds is illegal would this effect the Ginko petrified forest state park?WDFW, DNR, and State Parks can closed areas to collection. The law also said petrified items are not to be removed.
Since any kind of removal of rocks, minerals, flowers and as I was told by a park ranger today even sheds is illegal would this effect the Ginko petrified forest state park?
Quote from: bigtex on January 21, 2015, 12:00:25 AMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:56:20 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:52:59 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:47:54 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:39:36 PMQuote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 11:23:40 PMQuote from: csaaphill on January 20, 2015, 11:12:49 PMCan you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Realistically, an officer would be more justified right now to have their "sirens blazong" if someone was removing rocks then they would if this bill passed.As I have already said, right now it's a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. If this passes it'll be a infraction (ticket.) So I see a cool rock I can't take without it being a misdameanor now? just My dad collected rocks for years never seen the rock police out I don't know where you got the "now" part?? It's always been a misdemeanor to remove rocks from state lands. whatever I never knew that not until now never heard of such a thing.seems like a stupid law anyhows arrest someone for removing a small pebble or colorfull rock OMG!Just like being arrested for not wearing the safety bracelet on a jetski.And just think, prior to 1979 you could be arrested for literally any offense in WA.enlighten us. Still safety shouldn't always and I repeat always have a law added to it. Just one more way to collect money from people who don't hold to the Majority's way of thinking. It's a abritrary law that makes a person a criminal over Rocks, or not wearing some bracelet
Quote from: bigtex on January 20, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: mfswallace on January 20, 2015, 10:41:13 PMSince any kind of removal of rocks, minerals, flowers and as I was told by a park ranger today even sheds is illegal would this effect the Ginko petrified forest state park?WDFW, DNR, and State Parks can closed areas to collection. The law also said petrified items are not to be removed.BigtexPlease clarify for us all what is and isn't allowed for rock collecting. Some previous posts (from gold panners) said this was covered by rules already. Is that just for streams and gold panners? Is it truly illegal to pick up a rock on all DNR land? WDFW land? State parks I can believe. I absolutely abhor laws that turn regular folks into criminals. These laws are usually that are put in place to stop real thieves (probably taking truckloads of gravel from state land) but technically apply to kids playing in the creek.
I would rather see legislation that allowed rock hounding included with purchase of the Discover Pass which is already required to be on state lands. I think that would raise additional revenue for state parks by getting more rock hounders to buy discover passes.
Can you hear the sirens blazong if someone happens to pick up a rock without a permit. Er how about the choke holds that would be done because someone not holding a $5 permitt
I think my question with this statement is how many people currently out rock collecting don't have a Discover Pass? If these people already have a Discover Pass whether to use State Parks or use DNR lands then the revenue increase won't be all that much. I also don't think there's really that many rock collectors out there, I may be wrong.
I get bashed all the time when I say other states do it. My point isn't to say well if Montana is doing it, why shouldn't we. But rather to show that it's not something new that some crazy legislator in WA came up with. I just did a simple Google search and found that both Utah and Montana have similar permits and I'd be willing to bet there are more. Montana has a $10 Special Recreational Use Permit for use on state lands for the following activities: overnight horseback use, trapping, outfitting, group use, cutting or gathering of firewood, collecting valuable rocks and minerals, mineral exploration, collection or disturbance of archaeological, historical, or paleontological sites.Quote from: bearpaw on January 21, 2015, 10:00:11 AMI would rather see legislation that allowed rock hounding included with purchase of the Discover Pass which is already required to be on state lands. I think that would raise additional revenue for state parks by getting more rock hounders to buy discover passes.I think my question with this statement is how many people currently out rock collecting don't have a Discover Pass? If these people already have a Discover Pass whether to use State Parks or use DNR lands then the revenue increase won't be all that much. I also don't think there's really that many rock collectors out there, I may be wrong.
Quote from: bigtex on January 21, 2015, 10:18:56 AMI think my question with this statement is how many people currently out rock collecting don't have a Discover Pass? If these people already have a Discover Pass whether to use State Parks or use DNR lands then the revenue increase won't be all that much. I also don't think there's really that many rock collectors out there, I may be wrong.Im always disgusted at how our legislators dont look at the cost vs Rev on ideas like this If there are not that many rock hounds, and most of them that currently do have a DP it fails to raise any real $... So why push for this legislation?I still have not seen what problem this bill adresses.
Quote from: bigtex on January 21, 2015, 10:18:56 AMI get bashed all the time when I say other states do it. My point isn't to say well if Montana is doing it, why shouldn't we. But rather to show that it's not something new that some crazy legislator in WA came up with. I just did a simple Google search and found that both Utah and Montana have similar permits and I'd be willing to bet there are more. Montana has a $10 Special Recreational Use Permit for use on state lands for the following activities: overnight horseback use, trapping, outfitting, group use, cutting or gathering of firewood, collecting valuable rocks and minerals, mineral exploration, collection or disturbance of archaeological, historical, or paleontological sites.Quote from: bearpaw on January 21, 2015, 10:00:11 AMI would rather see legislation that allowed rock hounding included with purchase of the Discover Pass which is already required to be on state lands. I think that would raise additional revenue for state parks by getting more rock hounders to buy discover passes.I think my question with this statement is how many people currently out rock collecting don't have a Discover Pass? If these people already have a Discover Pass whether to use State Parks or use DNR lands then the revenue increase won't be all that much. I also don't think there's really that many rock collectors out there, I may be wrong.What happens to undergraduate Field Camps?
Quote from: Knocker of rocks on January 21, 2015, 10:28:40 AMQuote from: bigtex on January 21, 2015, 10:18:56 AMI get bashed all the time when I say other states do it. My point isn't to say well if Montana is doing it, why shouldn't we. But rather to show that it's not something new that some crazy legislator in WA came up with. I just did a simple Google search and found that both Utah and Montana have similar permits and I'd be willing to bet there are more. Montana has a $10 Special Recreational Use Permit for use on state lands for the following activities: overnight horseback use, trapping, outfitting, group use, cutting or gathering of firewood, collecting valuable rocks and minerals, mineral exploration, collection or disturbance of archaeological, historical, or paleontological sites.Quote from: bearpaw on January 21, 2015, 10:00:11 AMI would rather see legislation that allowed rock hounding included with purchase of the Discover Pass which is already required to be on state lands. I think that would raise additional revenue for state parks by getting more rock hounders to buy discover passes.I think my question with this statement is how many people currently out rock collecting don't have a Discover Pass? If these people already have a Discover Pass whether to use State Parks or use DNR lands then the revenue increase won't be all that much. I also don't think there's really that many rock collectors out there, I may be wrong.What happens to undergraduate Field Camps?I assume you mean like geology classes going out in the field?The current laws for all three agencies state that the director can authorize mineral/rock removal. So basically if the class professor asks DNR if they can remove X amount of rocks and DNR says yes then they can do so.