Your Move, Episode 1

[HntnFsh]

Leg goes forward moving the bone and I hit him where the red dot is.  To early and you hit bone.....I hit both lungs, maybe top of hart, maybe liver.

I'm prolly wrong, but it looks to me like your a bit far back. Maybe the near lung. Havent watched the video either though.

[erk444]

In my opinion, anyone one who takes a shot behind the shoulder on this elk is going to have a long, spotty blood trail to follow I have seen this same shot on deer and it was a horrible trail to follow. I cant even imagine how far that bull will go with that shot. Now, if you hit the perfect spot in front of the shoulder, it could be a different story but its way to risky for me.

[jrebel]

I don't see how this bull is quartering as much as many think.  I guess the picture makes it hard as everyone's interpretation is different.  I have shot my fair share of elk with archery equipment and I would not shoot in front of the shoulder.  I have never lost an elk and the ones I have seen get lost were frontal quartering shots that ended up with lots of fat on the arrow from a brisket and off side shoulder.  Very dangerous in my opinion to place an arrow in the font of that elk.  Now at 20 yards with a strong broadhead and 70 lbs bow....you may go high shoulder and blow through the bone...but that is risky too.   

[D-Rock425]

Jason phelps has a video of an elk he shot in Idaho that's pretty close to this situation.

[coachcw]

you wont like my opinion but if you drove that arrow right inside of the left hip pocket high , that bull would bleed like a stuck hog and not want to go any where , I hit a cow there once off a defection she ran sixty yards and fell over dead looked like a blood bath .

[D-Rock425]

Phelps Idaho Bull 2014: http://youtu.be/sV4re-8y0Vo

[D-Rock425]

you wont like my opinion but if you drove that arrow right inside of the left hip pocket high , that bull would bleed like a stuck hog and not want to go any where , I hit a cow there once off a defection she ran sixty yards and fell over dead looked like a blood bath .

i dont like it.

[Jonathan_S]

5th day of a 10 day hunt i'd pass on this dink bull.

Was waiting on that.  Yah, he's barely a keeper     Anybody considering throwing out a nervous grunt with their voice to stop bullwinkle before he enters the vital covering brush?

  at that distance and with him close to broadside, I don't really care what sound I have to make to get him to stop.  I could fart and he'd stop and look the same as if it were a cow call

[coachcw]

not the same shot not enough angle for the front entry at full draw give him three steps and slip it behind the shoulder .

[Karl Blanchard]

If you call to stop this bull he is most likely going stop, turn his head or step towards you making it an even harder quartering angle.  One lung is a lost elk most of the time. 

This very same thing happened to Aaron a few years back.  Spike comes in perfect broadside at 20yards.  He calls, bull stops but when he cranks his head to look his chest comes forward just enough to make it a quartering to angle.  He placed it perfect, tight to the pocket but due to the bull turning his body to look he didn't get the off side lung.  He got one lung, liver and guts.  He got lucky with the liver and the bull got pretty sick pretty fast but he wasn't gonna die anytime soon.  A sneak and another arrow finished it.  I've seen just enough bad things happen with archery tackle to know that its not worth sending that arrow on a shot that isn't optimal. 

Pass on the shot, bull lives, come back and call him in again.  If he is dead in the bushes a mile away because of a poorly placed arrow, you will never have an opportunity at him again. 

[Karl Blanchard]

not the same shot not enough angle for the front entry at full draw give him three steps and slip it behind the shoulder .

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[Shawn Ryan]

I agree with BLRman.  Though, I would likely have tried the nervous grunt just after the next step forward by the near front leg.  If I get better presentation:  more broadside, where I can shoot behind the leg/shoulder and hit both lungs, then I shoot. If not likely to hit both lungs, I pass and, like BLRman, I hunt him again later. Not hunt his wounded body from his blood trail.

My first archery elk was a cow running broadside.  Aluminum arrow broke in half, got the near lung and the liver. Found her 3 days later about a mile away, still alive and finished her.  She was carrying the half-arrow in her, with broadhead on one end and jagged aluminum shaft on the other, bleeding bad.  Lessons learned:  one lung is insufficient on elk; hunt aggressively, shoot conservatively.

[WSU]

A bit off topic, but what have people's experiences been with liver shots?  I hit a cow in the liver plus one lung.  She was dead by the time I could walk half a mile back to my truck and return with my pack.  I did it with a bull but only got liver.  He required a follow up about 2 miles and 5 hours later.  Both worked out in the end but the bull required some good fortune to even recover him. 

[TommyH]

not the same shot not enough angle for the front entry at full draw give him three steps and slip it behind the shoulder .

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  I wouldn't even call if he is on a slow cautious approach. He will just turn more to your call.

[D-Rock425]

A bit off topic, but what have people's experiences been with liver shots?  I hit a cow in the liver plus one lung.  She was dead by the time I could walk half a mile back to my truck and return with my pack.  I did it with a bull but only got liver.  He required a follow up about 2 miles and 5 hours later.  Both worked out in the end but the bull required some good fortune to even recover him. 

I've shot 2 elk in liver one was straight liver guts the other 1lung plus liver she only went 50yards and died.  It took about 40 minutes but she was in bad shape really quick.