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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2015, 09:11:07 AM »
I best note I am a RadSav fan now but Wasp will always be in my heart  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Here is the worst damage I ever had on any Wasp boss ..100gr ..pass threw one shoulder blade of elk at 40 yrds quartering to me shot ..not counting how big this elk was ... :chuckle:  We do have one kill under our belts with RadSav ( Savora ) only a spike  :chuckle: Not much bone there  :chuckle: Maybe I will try one on a turkey  :tup:

Cool.....expanded bullets....busted up broadheads...love 'em.

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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2015, 09:11:51 AM »
Most important thing to me is the broadhead holding up ! Yes it is all bent up and wristed but it did not come apart  :twocents:

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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2015, 02:50:30 PM »
I have only used Magnus stingers (cut on contact) and  they work great for me.

Saw a website where a guy shot one into a cinder block with an 80# bow, stayed intact. I was flabbergasted.


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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2015, 11:19:25 AM »

Unless you are at the bottom of the draw length / draw weight spectrum penetration is not a big concern with todays compound bows. 

Might not add up that way if you shoot a long bow, have a super short draw length or have some ailment where you must shoot at minimal draw weights.  In that case the two edge or three blade heads have an advantage.  Not necessarily because of the point.  But because of the over all reduction in frictional surfaces.
Any recomendations for those who  are short armed and female? Shooting 24.5 draw length 52 lb draw weight out of a compound.
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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 05:56:24 AM »
Any recomendations for those who  are short armed and female? Shooting 24.5 draw length 52 lb draw weight out of a compound.

Depends a bit on arrow weight.  There is always a compromise to be had at these light weights and short lengths.  On deer my wife never seems to have an arrow not pass all the way through.  She shoots 24.5 - 25" draw length and usually 50#.  we have seen a definate improvement in penetration when she moved north of 340 grains of arrow weight.  So we've kept it around 350 grains.

On elk she seems to always get both lungs but doesn't always get through that opposite chest wall.  Really depends on whether she hits a rib hard on exit or not.  Different blades and points  haven't really made a difference in that.  because of this her blood trails are not always real heavy.  So we try to stick with three blade heads over two blade heads.  Usually 1" to 1.125" diameter without too steap an angle.  Thunderhead 85, Whack'em, Montec are nice for ladies.  I was quite impressed with our TripleSec LPS 100 on last years elk for her.  Though my preference is for her to use the UltraCon and TiCon 100 heads we just released.  She has field tested them extensively with zero animal loss and some fantastic long range shots with zero recovery distance.

With that said I have a good friend in N. Dakota with very young daughters shooting some very light poundage.  They have been killing a good number of deer even with those limitations using two blade heads.  I beleive their head of choice is the Strikland head.  That would also be a highly recommended head for longbow shooters!
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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2015, 07:00:08 AM »
Thank you for the reply! We are building my hunting arrows soon and 350 grains or higher is the target weight. It's a little tricky to do with a short draw, as you know.
 i will look at those Strickland heads also - thanks again!
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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2015, 11:11:35 AM »
What are people's thoughts on single bevel broadheads like the grizzlystik maasai's?
Good for African bound dentists
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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2015, 06:24:49 AM »
A vidoe on beveled broadheads that I found interesting.


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Re: Cut on Impact vs chisel broadheads
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2015, 12:52:38 AM »
so are you implying that they are not worth the price tag associated with them? I haven't personally use them yet, however the reading I did seem fairly impressive. I'm not going to argue, there is quite a sticker shock when looking at the cost of them. However if people have used them I'd be curious to know their experiences and what they think of the product overall.

There are advantages to single bevel heads.  Initial prototype heads and even original patent images from both Duke Savora and Dick Maleski showed a preferred blade with a single beveled edge.  Both of them quickly abandon the idea due to micro edge durability.  The super thick blades the dentist uses should eliminate that problem to a large degree and also make them sharp which isn't all that easy a thing to accomplish with such a thick blade.

Is it worth the money? :dunno:  Depends on your personal preference, I guess.  If I was shooting some slow dog longbow at a buffalo...maybe!  If I had any desire to tempt fate again and shoot a two blade broadhead I would probably take more than one look at a single bevel blade.  Certainly could not be any worse than my personal experience with other two blade heads.  I have close personal friends that shoot them and like them.  Some of those friends are very successful bowhunters.  Do they have shorter blood trails and quicker kills than I do?  No, but they have confidence in it so who am I to tell them their money is better spent on something else?

If someone wants to use them instead of ours...that's ok with me.  As long as it is not barbed or leaving animals out there to die a slow painful death I have little to say one way or the other.  Certainly not the worst head on the market.  Not even close!!!  But, I doubt you will see us making one any time soon.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 08:58:59 PM by RadSav »
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