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Thoughts on Combination guns
« on: March 15, 2015, 04:56:01 PM »
Having to sell my rifle and shotgun last year. I've been giving the thought of just getting a combination shotgun with rifled barrel to replace them. 

I don't see me ever needing to reach out to touch deer any further than 100 yards anymore due to physical limitations and hunting alone. I'm hoping having the ability of both I will be able to hunt areas closer to home giving my spousal unit warm fuzzies now that I loss my friend and hunting partner.

Anyone doing the same and what should I be on the lookout for?
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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2015, 05:57:33 PM »
I haven't gone this route, but it makes since if you hunt on the wet side, or have limitations as you state.
Remington, Mossburg & Browning make rifled barrels for their shotguns and there some after market models too.
The interweb is a good source of information about equipment and tactics.
If your looking for an over-under combo gun Remington, Savage & Blaser make them in several combinations of
calibers & gages. They are usually on the pricy side though.

 

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2015, 06:10:03 PM »
What do you intend to hunt other than deer? For deer hunting with a shotgun I would go with a 20 gauge. But if you want to hunt waterfowl or turkeys you'll want a 12 gauge.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2015, 06:20:37 PM »
I've shot tons of deer on the east coast growing up with shotguns due to a county restriction. A 28inch barrel pump with a smooth bore and brenanke rifled slugs is all you need. Most of my shots were well under 100 yards but my fartherst was 125. I've never had a deer with a slug run more than 25 yards and never out of sight. Hit it in the right spot or it will tear up some meat. On does I always did head shots.
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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2015, 06:36:38 PM »
Mostly deer, the unexpected grouse and 2 legged vermin. Having only used a shotgun for grouse before this will be something new. Guess you could say I just want the opportunity to get out in the woods and hopefully put meat in the freezer for me.
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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2015, 06:49:19 PM »
I saw a combination gun at the show yesterday. It was a 12 ga over an a 6.5 x55 under, it was $650 and I thought about it. It would have made a good coyote gun too. My buddy in NY used an 870 with a rifled choke, he claimed it was accurate. I know I killed deer with it when I went back there to hunt. It'll save the cost of another barrel.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2015, 06:50:57 PM »
You might want to look at a Rossi model S20-243RBS 20Ga / 243Win, the price is right.  :twocents:
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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2015, 07:05:04 PM »
What do you intend to hunt other than deer? For deer hunting with a shotgun I would go with a 20 gauge. But if you want to hunt waterfowl or turkeys you'll want a 12 gauge.

Elk minimum gauge is 12.

We have a mossberg that came with a smooth and rifled barrel, it is a nice combo.  If you go a route like this, get a rifled barrel with a cantilevered scope mount rather than  iron sights.  Toss a 4x scope on it and it will be golden.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2015, 07:46:53 PM »
I shot a 30-30 / 20 gauge Savag a lot, everytime I could afford it as a kid. There are still a lot of those old guns out there and they shoot well. Wouldn't recommend a scope on it though, that is superfluous and detrimental for this type of rifle. IMO scopes are way too over used today, no one has the skill to use iron sights and it is a pity. It takes more skill to be competent with open sights and if someone can use open sights competently then they will be able to use a scope win equal proficiency. I have always considered the ability to use iron sights is comparable to using a manual transmission; automatic trans are common, easy to use, and give people a false sense of compenatncy, but if you can use a manual competently then you are much more expert and ahead of people that can't.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2015, 07:58:18 PM »
Of course it takes more work to use open sights, however, many of us are getting older and our eyes don't work as well any more.   :sry:  I suggested a scope....  Not really though, I'd rather have a 4x scope with a crosshair than a dovetail iron sight with a bead that covers half or more of a deer at a hundred yards! 

He also wants something to bird hunt with that might include ducks, I would personally never duck hunt with a single shot, again maybe just me.   :twocents:

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2015, 08:28:05 PM »
I feel for the guys that have lost sight to the point to where they can no longer shoot irons ( I know it is not really lost sight but depth perception and focus before I am corrected).  But I disagree with you, Loki, the sight should not cover the target, the top of the bead should be your aiming point not the center of the bead. I have heard people say the sight covers the target for years and never understood how they would use the center of the bead as the aiming point, it makes no sense. That is where some scopes get me, I am shooting a 1" aiming point at 200yds but my scope crosshairs cover the point of aim. With opens, granted I still have good sight, I can still pick a smaller aiming point than I can with most scopes at distance.

Wouldn't shoot duck with a single shot but grouse, quail, chuckar, or pheasant I would not like to try shooting while looking around a useless scope.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2015, 08:31:12 PM »
He said all he wants to shoot is deer, grouse, and people.

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2015, 08:40:04 PM »
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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2015, 08:50:28 PM »
I feel for the guys that have lost sight to the point to where they can no longer shoot irons ( I know it is not really lost sight but depth perception and focus before I am corrected).  But I disagree with you, Loki, the sight should not cover the target, the top of the bead should be your aiming point not the center of the bead. I have heard people say the sight covers the target for years and never understood how they would use the center of the bead as the aiming point, it makes no sense. That is where some scopes get me, I am shooting a 1" aiming point at 200yds but my scope crosshairs cover the point of aim. With opens, granted I still have good sight, I can still pick a smaller aiming point than I can with most scopes at distance.

Wouldn't shoot duck with a single shot but grouse, quail, chuckar, or pheasant I would not like to try shooting while looking around a useless scope.

Combo shotguns come with two barrels, one smooth and one rifled, no shooting around a scope.   :dunno:

He said all he wants to shoot is deer, grouse, and people.

OK, I'd still suggest something like the Mossberg smooth/rifled combo, if deer only, forever, then I would go with a 20g, if there is potential for elk, then need to go 12g.  Especially for people, I would not want a single shot....

A smoothbore 20 does shoot rifled slugs decently and put an action mounted scope on it for that will easily give you a hundred yard gun for a cheaper alternative to the combo.. 

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Re: Thoughts on Combination guns
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2015, 09:05:00 PM »
Yes, some do but I was thinking more of a combo gun.  A rifled barrel over a shotgun barrel is what I was pointing toward. Or! One of the nice drillings I have handled and not been able to afford.

If you are talking about a switch barrel then by all means throw a nice little Leupold FX-1 4x on it.

 


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