tribal killing of elk

[norsepeak]

Don't remember exactly, but it came down to the ceded treaty rights, blah, blah, blah, and then there was some type of deal made with the tribe for discipline of the two natives involved.  Basically they got a slap on the wrist and a small fine ($100 ea. I think).  After the 4 years of fighting it I was really burned out on the whole deal and lost interest.

[runamuk]

This whole thing is so confusing.

I have a couple questions....ok I actually have a lot more than that but will stick to few...

1. Is it legal or illegal to have a loaded weapon in your vehicle?

2. Aren't there laws regarding shooting across, and within certain distances of roads?

3. Are enforcement officers of any sort even allowed to give tribal members tickets?

Take the hunting out of the equation and what I want to know is are tribal members allowed to break laws because they do not apply?  Can they drive drunk without fear of a ticket?  Or run red lights?  Or park where ever they wish?

I guess I just don't see how they can violate regular laws that even non hunters must follow related to firearms and shooting 

[HardCorpsHuntr]

This whole thing is so confusing.

I have a couple questions....ok I actually have a lot more than that but will stick to few...

1. Is it legal or illegal to have a loaded weapon in your vehicle?

2. Aren't there laws regarding shooting across, and within certain distances of roads?

3. Are enforcement officers of any sort even allowed to give tribal members tickets?

Take the hunting out of the equation and what I want to know is are tribal members allowed to break laws because they do not apply?  Can they drive drunk without fear of a ticket?  Or run red lights?  Or park where ever they wish?

I guess I just don't see how they can violate regular laws that even non hunters must follow related to firearms and shooting 

1. Depends.  Wa. you need a CWP.  No long guns can be loaded....except LEO's and the sorts.
2. Yeap
3. State Routes and Interstate highways that go through the reservation are paid by us (WSDOT.)  Tribal members are exempt from infractions by troopers and deputies (speeding, seatbelt, no insurance, littering, open container, and most all of the rules of the road.), but they are not exempt from citations (DUI, reckless driving, Neg. 2nd., DWLS/R, etc.)  and felony's.

[heavy hauler]

if they are actual sovern nations as they claim, why cant we put a fence along there borders like mexico?this might cause them to negotiate some with us on there tribal "rights" bs. 

[stumprat]

if they are actual sovern nations as they claim, why cant we put a fence along there borders like mexico?this might cause them to negotiate some with us on there tribal "rights" bs. 

Best idea I've heard yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[runamuk]

3. State Routes and Interstate highways that go through the reservation are paid by us (WSDOT.)  Tribal members are exempt from infractions by troopers and deputies (speeding, seatbelt, no insurance, littering, open container, and most all of the rules of the road.), but they are not exempt from citations (DUI, reckless driving, Neg. 2nd., DWLS/R, etc.)  and felony's.

Does this apply off the rez?  I knew that on rez things are handled by tribal police but what about off the rez?

[dbllunger]

Off the Rez they get and have to pay speeding tickets just like you and I.  Wow things being equal what a concept. 

[heavy hauler]

do we have to pay if we get tickets on the rez?

[mossback91]

do we have to pay if we get tickets on the rez?

I believe so........but most tribal cops I have ran into dont give a rats ass about giving you a ticket!! but there are a few that doo!!.....from what ive heard......but I have never had a run in with those ones!

[colvilletacoma]

No we have to pay infractions, citations, anything just like everyone else. Trust me I had 6 speeding tickets in 1 year. Yes I carry full coverage and yes you have to pay tickets on the rez but I dont believe they go on your record for members or non-members.

[runamuk]

OK so following this line of thought, if they are violating the law off the rez while taking game why can't they be cited?  So you can't cite them for the killing but what about a loaded firearm in a vehicle?  or shooting from too close to a road?

It doesn't make sense that just because they can hunt means they can also violate other laws in the process 

I've also heard that illegals poaching can't be cited etc, so have all the enforcement officers just accepted the "Our hands are tied" line of thinking?  I mean I realize it may be hard to make progress but doing nothing at all does just that nothing 

[colvilletacoma]

A poacher on our reservation that got caught a year ago got his hunting rights taken away for 5 years and his gun taken away. Another poacher was caught this year that shot a bull moose and the same if not worse is going to happen to him. Both were tribal members

[ICEMAN]

colvilletacoma, why is it that many jurisdictions chose not to fingerprint tribal members for arrest, rather to turn members over to the tribe for prosecution?

[colvilletacoma]

Good question, I dont know never heard of it happening. The only way that would happen is if they were on tribal lands but they were a sheriff of the county then its tribal jurisdiction. My buddy got a DUI when he was off the reservation, had to go to court just like everyone else, got punishment just like everyone else, had a breathalizer in his car for a year just like everyone else, had his liscense suspended for a year just like everyone else. I have friends that get in trouble off the reservation and have to go through everything just like any other person would have to....Have to ask a tribal cop I suppose, sorry I couldnt answer your question

[runamuk]

A poacher on our reservation that got caught a year ago got his hunting rights taken away for 5 years and his gun taken away. Another poacher was caught this year that shot a bull moose and the same if not worse is going to happen to him. Both were tribal members

This is good to hear.  Makes me think it is only some tribes not stepping up