Movie Review, Hunting WA Forum Style

[WapitiTalk1]

OK campers, let's talk about elk behavior and language.  This movie is action packed, well produced, has a great cast of characters, and a plucky spirit.  Let's do it like this (my thread, my rules  ....):

1.  Pick a spot in the VID and report what you see/hear.  Please identify the timeframe, i.e., 1:04 thru 1:12 and tell us what you see and/or hear.  What do you feel is happening in that particular activity, vocalization, etc. 

2.  Respond to somebody's observation/analysis with an agree, don't agree, and perhaps some follow on comments if you'd like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQcMZLZpx8

I'll start. 

2:03 - 2:44.  Satellite bull flies in from right side of meadow to try and hook some cows as the two large bulls finish their battle in the river.  Big gimpy comes unglued and charges towards satellite bull screaming obsenities at the young bull to move on.  Satellite bull throws out a few popping grunts to try and keep the cow's attention. 

Agree?  Disagree?  Anything you wish to add to this analysis?  Thanks for playing along.  RJ   

[elk247]

First of all, that's a cool video!

I'd like to add that the young, dumb, love sick raghorn let's out a bugle that catches the big bulls off guard and causes them to disengage. He couldn't help but announce his arrival and unknowingly tipped his hand.

[Tbob]

Couple things.. I'm still learning and was just wondering towards the end of the video I heard a few very distinct barks. Who was doing that and why?
   Also I wonder how many elk have drowned fighting in water like that?

[elk247]

Those barks came from big gimpy. Not so much a warning, but an ultimatum to his cows, if you will. He had no fear of the raghorn, but had no desire to chase cows on a bum knee. If you notice, the cows don't move after the barks. Anyone see this differently?

[MLBowhunting]

I totally agree about the smaller bull.  Even the cows didn't want anything to do with him.   

[Tbob]

Interesting! Thanks for the answer.. I always associated "the bark" with a warning of get the hell out of dodge.. At least that's usually what I hear before I see heads and butts bouncing away from me. Ha!

[WapitiTalk1]

Phantom said:  "Big gimpy comes unglued and charges towards satellite bull screaming obsenities at the young bull to move on."

OK, do you think old gimpy in the 2:03 - 2:44 clip I mentioned is really screaming at the satellite? He's not, he's screaming at his cows to form back up (calling cows to him bugle).. notice where his physical attention is when he's screaming (looking directly at the cows the satellite is pushing).  The herd bull's on-coming presence is enough to let the satellite know he's gonna kick his butt; they've both been here before, possibly for the past several years.  The young gun knows what's coming and big nasty isn't talking to him, he's talking to his ladies!

Somebody else pick a spot in the movie and let us know what you think is going on.  Let's keep this going for a while and I'll grab another movie to discuss     

   

[xXLojackXx]

That old warrior was whoopin up on those boys. I believe it was @ 1:98 that bull was saying "come on back son"

[pd]

Great one, RJ.  I have seen this one before.  I love that old bull, bumn right shoulder.  That silly bull flanks him in the water, but is deeper that the herd bull.  It is almost like a dance; they flank, and then engage, almost as if it were choreographed.  I am sure they have done this multiple times.  The funny thing is, the old bull would be much weaker on dry land, but his weaker front quarter is of no hindrance in the water; the old bull's gonads are clearly showing, and his hind quarters quiver in excitement.

The thing that amazes me is the smaller bulls disengages right at 1:50, when he hears the bugle from the rag horn.  Perhaps it was because the old bull's head was in the water, he doesn't seem to react quickly to the interloper.  But he sure lights off when he realizes the dumb young rag horn is back at it again.

As Lojack said, the cows want nothing to do with the young bull, and run towards their Sugar Daddy.

[xXLojackXx]

  But he sure lights off when he realizes the dumb young rag horn is back at it again.

As Lojack said, the cows want nothing to do with the young bull, and run towards their Sugar Daddy.

That young "rag horn" probably pushes 315" lol

[Gringo31]

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[Karl Blanchard]

That gave me goose bumps!

[PA BEN]

The Satellite bull is doing all the barking.

[cryder]

THAT IS REALLY COOL ! THANX FOR THAT , But just like any other video with critters like that , it just ruins any chance of sleeping till sept. for crap sakes THANX  for that too !!!

[elk247]

  But he sure lights off when he realizes the dumb young rag horn is back at it again.

As Lojack said, the cows want nothing to do with the young bull, and run towards their Sugar Daddy.

That young "rag horn" probably pushes 315" lol

that's my fault, I shouldn't have called him that. He exceeds the raghorn classification.