Boning out a buck- How much weight is saved?

[Tbob]

The few critters I've been fortunate enough to take were broken down with the gutless method and then packed out in quarters. I take all the meat off the ribs, back-strap, tenderloins brisket and neck meat.  Just easier for me to deal with the meat on the bones in my pack than big blobs of squishy meat. During my hunt in AK I learned that it is the law to leave the meat on the bone. Moose bones are big!!

[TriggerMike]

Yup, I didn't mind. He was doing his job and I broke the rules, still love Idaho !


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That is some cheesy crap right there man. A little discretion goes a long way in my book. I have worked in corrections for nearly 9 years and trust me if I wrote up every person/offender for every petty little thing I would never leave the computer. There are times that common sense and understanding will do more in the long run then being a hard A.  You obviously could prove it was a bull that was harvested. That is just flat out a guy being an A-Hole.

i wish we had more like you in Leo!!

Thanks. I'm no push over by any means but sometimes I will have better results with a warning rather than a stiff punishment. If a guy honestly didn't even know he was doing wrong and you cut him a break, and trust me you can tell if they are BS-ing you, that guy might actually learn from his mistake and not do it again. If you crack down on a guy for something so small and petty it might turn him sour to not only you but other officers he may encounter in the future. Like I said I'm not a push over and if you got it coming I will oblige. But the old saying "You get more bees with honey" can be beneficial as long as you know when to follow it.

Back to the topic at hand and the OP. If you have a pack FRAME and it's not to much trouble to go get it leave the bones in and take out quarters whole. They will hang nicer in a cooler and stay cleaner. If you are down in the bottom of hell leave them bones for the devils dogs to chew on.

I have the old yellow pack frame that our dad's used to haul the elk out of West Bar with back in the day. But I have a feeling that I will be deboning this year with the area I'm planning on going in to, especially for bear.

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[TriggerMike]

The few critters I've been fortunate enough to take were broken down with the gutless method and then packed out in quarters. I take all the meat off the ribs, back-strap, tenderloins brisket and neck meat.  Just easier for me to deal with the meat on the bones in my pack than big blobs of squishy meat. During my hunt in AK I learned that it is the law to leave the meat on the bone. Moose bones are big!!

I did the exact same thing with my buck last year. Gutless then quartered. Was only about 1.5 miles to the truck though. Any steeper and deeper then I would've been deboning.

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[TriggerMike]

Now I'm just getting nostalgic. Quartering him up in this pic and getting ready to put the backstraps in a game bag. Dinner of Champions.



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[TomT]

To keep the meat clean, I use a plastic painting drop cloth.  Spread it out, use the gutless method and place the clean meat on the drop cloth until it is bagged for packing. 
Cheap and a 9'x12' sheet weighs almost nothing.

[CoryTDF]

Yup, I didn't mind. He was doing his job and I broke the rules, still love Idaho !


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That is some cheesy crap right there man. A little discretion goes a long way in my book. I have worked in corrections for nearly 9 years and trust me if I wrote up every person/offender for every petty little thing I would never leave the computer. There are times that common sense and understanding will do more in the long run then being a hard A.  You obviously could prove it was a bull that was harvested. That is just flat out a guy being an A-Hole.

i wish we had more like you in Leo!!

Thanks. I'm no push over by any means but sometimes I will have better results with a warning rather than a stiff punishment. If a guy honestly didn't even know he was doing wrong and you cut him a break, and trust me you can tell if they are BS-ing you, that guy might actually learn from his mistake and not do it again. If you crack down on a guy for something so small and petty it might turn him sour to not only you but other officers he may encounter in the future. Like I said I'm not a push over and if you got it coming I will oblige. But the old saying "You get more bees with honey" can be beneficial as long as you know when to follow it.

Back to the topic at hand and the OP. If you have a pack FRAME and it's not to much trouble to go get it leave the bones in and take out quarters whole. They will hang nicer in a cooler and stay cleaner. If you are down in the bottom of hell leave them bones for the devils dogs to chew on.

I have the old yellow pack frame that our dad's used to haul the elk out of West Bar with back in the day. But I have a feeling that I will be deboning this year with the area I'm planning on going in to, especially for bear.

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If you are looking for a new Pack frame check out the Bullpacs frames. They are nice. I have one and I like it. I also have a badlands 2200 that is good for about half of a deer if packed right. In truth I don't really like the pack that much for just hunting though as it is a pain to get into and keep organized.

[RadSav]

Nice thing about animals is they come wrapped in there own drop cloth.  So I don't see where the trouble in keeping meat clean comes from.  It's nice to have a space blanked to allow you to spread out a little, but it definitely is not necessary.  Just slow down and take the time to do it right.  No worries!

[tgomez]

180 lb buck=21 lbs of bone.   
220Lb buck= 24 lbs of bone.
275 lb plus buck= 27-28 lbs of bone.
Hope this helps.

[TriggerMike]

Yup, I didn't mind. He was doing his job and I broke the rules, still love Idaho !


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That is some cheesy crap right there man. A little discretion goes a long way in my book. I have worked in corrections for nearly 9 years and trust me if I wrote up every person/offender for every petty little thing I would never leave the computer. There are times that common sense and understanding will do more in the long run then being a hard A.  You obviously could prove it was a bull that was harvested. That is just flat out a guy being an A-Hole.

i wish we had more like you in Leo!!

Thanks. I'm no push over by any means but sometimes I will have better results with a warning rather than a stiff punishment. If a guy honestly didn't even know he was doing wrong and you cut him a break, and trust me you can tell if they are BS-ing you, that guy might actually learn from his mistake and not do it again. If you crack down on a guy for something so small and petty it might turn him sour to not only you but other officers he may encounter in the future. Like I said I'm not a push over and if you got it coming I will oblige. But the old saying "You get more bees with honey" can be beneficial as long as you know when to follow it.

Back to the topic at hand and the OP. If you have a pack FRAME and it's not to much trouble to go get it leave the bones in and take out quarters whole. They will hang nicer in a cooler and stay cleaner. If you are down in the bottom of hell leave them bones for the devils dogs to chew on.

I have the old yellow pack frame that our dad's used to haul the elk out of West Bar with back in the day. But I have a feeling that I will be deboning this year with the area I'm planning on going in to, especially for bear.

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If you are looking for a new Pack frame check out the Bullpacs frames. They are nice. I have one and I like it. I also have a badlands 2200 that is good for about half of a deer if packed right. In truth I don't really like the pack that much for just hunting though as it is a pain to get into and keep organized.

Alright cool I'll look into that.

[crabcreekhunter]

Saves a lot of weight.. Buck last year was 11 miles from the truck, gut less method split cape down the back down one side.. Debone and put meat seperated on garbage sacks, flip and repeat and done in under an hour! Cape skull, cut off lower jaw and on your way. Done about 15 muleys this way.

[BLUEBULLS]

There's a time and place for each method. I'd much rather have quarters when it comes to hanging and butchering. Last year I boned one buck and counting horns and cape it was 100lbs. Another buck I quartered and the whole darn thing was only maybe  75lbs. Really depends for me on the size of the deer, where I am, and what else I need to pack out.

[AKBowman]

Compared to quarters w the bone on.  Probably 30-40 lbs extra.

Man, you must shoot some BIG deer!!

Agreed. I would say if your just talking the bones in the quarters of an average Miley Buck probably around 15-20lbs

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Yeah we got that about two pages back.  24 lbs.  I was just guessing.  I like to keep that 25 lbs off my back and care quicker for my meat.  Like I said even in October meat can bone sour in hours.  Removing the bones cools the meat ten times as fast.  And that's probably an understatement.  That's why I do it.  Cool clean and dry! 

[Okanagan]

Error correction:  happened to look at an old post and found a BIG typo error in my post, partly quoted below.  I said that a boned out huge Canadian mule deer weighed 220 lbs.  WRONG.  It was 120 lbs., still a huge buck.  Didn't notice my error till now, and apologize. 

 

Some actuals:

- Average blacktail fork horn buck from north Cascades weighed 48 lbs. boned out.
- Huge bodied Canadian mule deer pushing book size weighed 220 lbs. boned out.
- Huge bodied blacktail/mule deer cross from north Cascades weighed 115 lbs. boned out, with much of one quarter lost to bloodshot.
- Two other exceptionally large bodied N. Cascades hybrid bucks went 105 and 97 lbs. boned out.
- Spike blacktail from Vancouver island weighed 36 lbs. boned out.

My fallible memory recalls that writer Ed Park said that the average WA State fork horn mule deer in his experience weighed 62 lbs. boned out, based on several that he had weighed.

The two huge bucks listed above are near the extreme big end of size spectrum, very rare, but weighed by me.

[dreamunelk]

Nice thing about animals is they come wrapped in there own drop cloth.  So I don't see where the trouble in keeping meat clean comes from.  It's nice to have a space blanked to allow you to spread out a little, but it definitely is not necessary.  Just slow down and take the time to do it right.  No worries!

 
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