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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2015, 07:02:17 AM »
Firing pin is upgraded...so is the trigger and spring!
Nice! Just a friendly heads up. Glock is a fantastic choice, just hate to see ya go blind for enjoying it. Best of luck 2 you.
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2015, 07:03:11 AM »
You too!
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2015, 07:05:13 AM »
I never said to not carry a sidearm or that people should not carry a side arm, I am really not sure why your jumping to conclusions when I posted that I do carry a glock 20.
Your the one criticizing people. I have only stated facts, I guess I'm just not that afraid of bears due to the number of people killed by bears being really low.

When was the last time someone was killed by a bear in WA?. How many people are killed in the woods by people every year?.

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2015, 07:12:27 AM »
Like i said it only takes once. And I have never even seen a crackhead in the woods, they are in the city looking for crack! Drug dealers sell crack in the city. I never criticized anyone. You worry about crackheads bear hunting, and I will worry about the bears! :tup:
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2015, 07:24:54 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Note the amount that were field dressing animals.  That activity comprises a miniscule percentage of time in the woods yet accounts for several attacks.  Keep your sidearm strapped on :)

Have personal experience with one black bear and another time a grizzly approaching me while I gutted a buck.  The black bear paced about 40 feet away and jumped on the gut pile by the time we had dragged the buck that far from it.  The grizz circled out of sight but I heard him several times.  I saw his tracks in snow nearby as I left.  I'd forgotten something at the kill site so went back the next day and the grizzly had covered the boned out deer remains in a pile of grass and sticks.  I tiptoed away as fast as I could...

Re danger from bears:  I think it was writer Ben East who opined that one black bear in 50 is dangerous to man.  Problem is you don't know if you are on number 1 or number 50...






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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2015, 07:25:33 AM »
Statistics may show the chances are slim but I'd rather be packing and never need it than become a statistic. :tup:   I have had encounters with bear and cougar. IMO the moose are the worst!!!!
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2015, 07:47:44 AM »
Statistics may show the chances are slim but I'd rather be packing and never need it than become a statistic. :tup:   I have had encounters with bear and cougar. IMO the moose are the worst!!!!
Lol, true that. The moose get REAL mean and nasty!
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2015, 08:00:43 AM »
In all the Bears I have killed I have never once needed to use a sidearm. That includes solo archery hunts for bears. I did come close to tangling with a spines bear in thick brush once but I don't think a pistol would have done any better than my rifle.  :dunno: I always do carry a pistol with me though. But that isn't because I am afraid of the big bad bear and his teeth and claws.  :chuckle:
Fwiw I carry a xd 45 in the woods and a kimber ultra in town.

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2015, 09:36:12 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Note the amount that were field dressing animals.  That activity comprises a miniscule percentage of time in the woods yet accounts for several attacks.  Keep your sidearm strapped on :)
There was a study done a couple years ago in Montana on grizzly movements.  They tracked grizz via radio collars and found that bears were stalking humans keeping under 300 yds a whole lot more than they expected.  They especially like to follow hunters. 
In Alaska, a few of the guys I talked to said they try not to shoot more than once on a deer.  That the Kodiak brown bears run towards gun shots expecting to steal deer from hunters.  Said they also try not to shoot later in the day so they aren't packing at night and field dress pretty fast.

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2015, 01:03:30 PM »
Will be strapping on a Dan Wesson .44 with the 4" barrel, picked up the 4" barrel last year, much lighter than the VH 8".  Before that it was the 6" Colt Anaconda. Loaded with Garrett 310 grain super hard cast.
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2015, 01:51:27 PM »
I carry a Glock 22 .40 s&w.  Not bashing but have a hi point .380 and I would never carry it as a side arm.  I love plinking with it though.  I need something i can drop in the mud pull it out and shoot.  The glock can do that.  Maybe i am harder on guns:'(
Make sure you get that fireing pin changed in the glock, they are known to fly out the rear of the slide while being fired. My firearms insructor recommended to many in my class who own that firearm, (he had pin fly out and go through nose into eye orbital). I believe it's  around $35.00 for the upgrade. Wish I could afford a glock, for now my Hi-Point does me better than nothing, and I would trust my life to it. If you keep them cleaned and lubricated than they function just fine.

Odd.  I carry a Glock 29 in the woods and have been shooting and instructing with Glocks for between 15 and 20 years.  I have also been to several armorers courses for them and I have NEVER seen that happen or heard of that happening.
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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2015, 01:55:00 PM »
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Odd.  I carry a Glock 29 in the woods and have been shooting and instructing with Glocks for between 15 and 20 years.  I have also been to several armorers courses for them and I have NEVER seen that happen or heard of that happening.

This is the internet.  Anything is possible.   :chuckle:

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2015, 02:17:13 PM »
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Odd.  I carry a Glock 29 in the woods and have been shooting and instructing with Glocks for between 15 and 20 years.  I have also been to several armorers courses for them and I have NEVER seen that happen or heard of that happening.

This is the internet.  Anything is possible.   :chuckle:

The guy that carries a hi-point is a firearms expert :chuckle:

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2015, 02:46:58 PM »
I carry a Glock 22 .40 s&w.  Not bashing but have a hi point .380 and I would never carry it as a side arm.  I love plinking with it though.  I need something i can drop in the mud pull it out and shoot.  The glock can do that.  Maybe i am harder on guns:'(
Make sure you get that fireing pin changed in the glock, they are known to fly out the rear of the slide while being fired. My firearms insructor recommended to many in my class who own that firearm, (he had pin fly out and go through nose into eye orbital). I believe it's  around $35.00 for the upgrade. Wish I could afford a glock, for now my Hi-Point does me better than nothing, and I would trust my life to it. If you keep them cleaned and lubricated than they function just fine.

Odd.  I carry a Glock 29 in the woods and have been shooting and instructing with Glocks for between 15 and 20 years.  I have also been to several armorers courses for them and I have NEVER seen that happen or heard of that happening.

Well, that's the first thing that my instructor Garry Johns told or class about Glocks. 15-20 years more experience than I have, but Garry John's is a retired police officer of 30 years, shoots competition still to this day, and has more than 40 years of experience with handguns/pistols.He also had a fireing pin from a GLOCK go through his nose into his eye orbital. Ill ask him in next Mondays class about which type of replacement he recommends for the Glock. And if you were implying that that was a lie, I can ensure you that Garry wouldn't lie, he is a man of 100% INTEGRITY.

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Re: Sidearm for Black Bear.
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2015, 02:52:25 PM »
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Odd.  I carry a Glock 29 in the woods and have been shooting and instructing with Glocks for between 15 and 20 years.  I have also been to several armorers courses for them and I have NEVER seen that happen or heard of that happening.

This is the internet.  Anything is possible.   :chuckle:

The guy that carries a hi-point is a firearms expert :chuckle:
Ya, your sure right because I claimed to be an expert. I carry a high point because that's what I can afford plain and simple. Your entitled to your opnion, im just glad you think im so good. Thank you!! :tup:
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