Take Action Now on Seattle Anti-Gun Ordinances

[cowboycraig]

From NRA Frontlines. Take Action Now! Tomorrow is too late (for real).



As previously reported, Seattle City Council President Tim Burgess proposed two anti-gun ordinances http://www.seattle.gov/council/Burgess/attachments/Gun-Safety-Ordinances.pdf and has scheduled them to be heard in the Education and Governance Committee tomorrow morning, July 15, at 9:30am. 

Please click here http://act.nraila.org/vE6RRQ1 now to contact the Seattle City Council and politely urge them to oppose these ordinances.

The first ordinance seeks to levy reparations from those who lawfully engage in the expression of their Second Amendment rights by imposing a tax on each firearm and round of ammunition that is legally sold in Seattle.  The proposal would take the paid taxes and use it to pay for crimes committed by others.  Such an ordinance would simply force the law-abiding to pay for the actions of criminals.

The second ordinance would mandate that gun owners who have become the victim of a burglary or other such theft to report that a firearm has become lost or stolen within 24 hours.  Notwithstanding the unreasonable requirement for individuals to have an immediate inventory of all items that are lost during such a traumatic event, this ordinance would further punish victims of these occurrences by fining them upwards of $500. 

These ordinances are a horrendous affront to law-abiding gun owners and dealers. By proposing these imprudent ordinances, Council President Burgess is disregarding Washington’s preemption law which prohibits local governments from enacting such ordinances.

It is important that NRA members and Second Amendment supporters contact the Seattle City Council immediately and urge them to oppose these fallacious ordinances.

Yours in Freedom,
Keely Hopkins
http://www.nrailafrontlines.com/

[bigfish9684]

Done.  Not that Burgess will listen.

[Crunchy]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

[JimmyHoffa]

So, punish the victim?  If they steal my tire wrench should I get fined for that too?

[Crunchy]

So, punish the victim?  If they steal my tire wrench should I get fined for that too?

how else do you teach people not to leave a firearm in your car?  You live in a fantasy world if you are thinking no one would ever steal it.

[cowboycraig]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

If we had truly wise elders running the government in Seattle there is a slim chance I would be OK with it. BUT we do not, and this law is just another attack on gun owners.

As the City Council continues to make Seattle more of a Sh*t hole, I am sure this law (if created) will find its way into the home.

Even if in some way we can agree with proposed gun laws we have to fight them. Every win is dignity taken from good people by political degenerates.

Craig

[dontgetcrabs]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

WOW   

[magnanimous_j]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

WOW   

No, he's absolutely right. If someone left a thousand dollars in cash on the front seat of their car and it got stolen, how sorry would you feel for them? Maybe a little, but you'd still want to smack their head for doing something so dumb.

The 2nd Amendment gives us the RIGHT to bear arms. But it doesn't absolve us of the responsibility of our actions. If YOUR gross negligence allows YOUR firearm to fall into the hands of criminals, be glad all you get is a fine.

[JimmyHoffa]

So, punish the victim?  If they steal my tire wrench should I get fined for that too?

how else do you teach people not to leave a firearm in your car?  You live in a fantasy world if you are thinking no one would ever steal it.

I think I'd start with a mandatory 30 or more behind bars for the guys doing the stealing of the firearms.
Trickier situation when the car is unlocked, off your own private property and kid less than 5?, 6? were to get hold of it.

[762Armo]

How do you guys feel about sharing your home address on this form? I am always weary of sharing my personal address on these things. Maybe I'm paranoid, ( I know that they already know that I have firearms) but could this have any negative impact?

[ghosthunter]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

WOW   

No, he's absolutely right. If someone left a thousand dollars in cash on the front seat of their car and it got stolen, how sorry would you feel for them? Maybe a little, but you'd still want to smack their head for doing something so dumb.

The 2nd Amendment gives us the RIGHT to bear arms. But it doesn't absolve us of the responsibility of our actions. If YOUR gross negligence allows YOUR firearm to fall into the hands of criminals, be glad all you get is a fine.

So you are on your way to eastern Wa and you stop for breakfast, lunch , gas . You have a rifle ,handgun,and all your gear in the car.
You take your firearms with you ?
Someone breaks in and you get fined.

I can't believe anyone would go for that on this site.

Good thing the state constitution won't allow it.
Forget comments send some money to the 2 nd amendment foundation.

[cowboycraig]

It isn't about "incentive towards responsibility", it is about pushing further towards gun confiscation. Please people don't fall for crap like this. Next it will be the same law for a house burglary and mandatory safes, and home inspections to ensure safe storage based on the discretion of people chosen by the same city council... Any infractions will be a felony. Please people know that an enemy of liberty and America is pushing this treason. A lot of evil sounds good, it is called controlling the narrative.

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[biggfish]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  Not that it makes it ok to steal the gun in the first place but accept some responsibility.

So why not fine home owners for getting their guns stolen?  If I lock a pistol up in my vehicle I've done my due diligence. A criminal will always be a criminal. If some does make the mistake of leaving a firearm in plain sight and it is stolen that person has already paid a high enough price last I checked guns aren't cheap.

[Mauser]

If you leave a firearm in your car unattended, and it is broken into and stolen, you should get fined.  .

Wow. And if they steal the car and injure someone am I in trouble too? And, what is the difference in  a lock on a car and a lock on your house. This is the kind of logic that produces more bad gun laws and entraps the victims of crime.

[luvmystang67]

My problem with the car thing is how much effort to keep your gun from being stolen is enough. 

Level 1: You leave a gun in a car unlocked
Level 2: You leave a gun in a car locked
Level 3: You leave a gun in your house unlocked
Level 4: You leave your gun in your house locked in a cabinet
Level 5: You leave your gun in your house locked in a cheap safe
Level 6: You leave your gun locked in your house locked in an impenetrable safe
Level 7: You leave your gun in your pocket
Level 8: You leave your gun in your pocket with a magazine in the other pocket and a fingerprint lock release

At what point in this set of levels is "responsible".  You could argue at any level that the person "could've done more".  If they could've done more and didn't, how do you stop the slippery slope by saying they should be fined? 

Perhaps we should start the national discussion of blaming victims of other crimes...  Kidding, that would backfire like crazy.

If you look at that list and tell me that a gun stolen out of my car should be a fine for me, I'd come back and challenge that if a gun is stolen out of your house you should be fined and then we'd be at an impasse.