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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2015, 07:25:14 PM »
Cocoon pillows are the best. But aren't they only like 2 oz?! Maybe yours is a different style.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2015, 07:27:23 PM »
You have a camp towel, a cotton towel, and a full roll of TP.....not much weight but you could save some space at least.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2015, 07:39:02 PM »
Thermacell
two beanies ?
How many flash lights ?
Pillow
sleeping pad
camp knife
rubber gloves
do you need ten blades for the h avalon ?
 Camp towel
water filter
full role of tp for 3 days ? I'd swap to paper towels

extra batteries arnt needed for short trips..don't waist your juice

Emergency blanket could go since you have sleeping bag

Get a lighter tent set up

What's Vaseline for ??

Ditch the pistol

As you mentioned you liked "comfort" items but these are what i would review and consider changing/ditching

The problem with these gear lists is there is no one single do all list...conditions of the trip dictate everything...i have a different set of needs for nearly every trip I do to some extent so I won't get too specific

Good luck,keep track of what you use and how crucial it was....most importantly have loads of fun  :tup:


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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2015, 07:57:34 PM »
I didn't see pistol. Ya dump that for sure. Might as well just pack a 31 oz rock


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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2015, 08:12:57 PM »
Heres what I would change or leave out of your pack.

-10 pair latex gloves, take 2

-12 havalon blades, take 3-4

- emergency blanket, moleskin, stitch kit (you already have a wound closure kit), sunscreen/vaseline, rape whistle, and backup life straw. Reasons: you have a sleeping bag, its 3 days-fight through a blister, not sure what vaseline is for besides fire starter, if you're stranded you are better off making a signal fire than blowing a rape whistle. especially in these conditions, fires dont go unnoticed. I'd also boil water if my filter somehow broke before sucking it out of a creek through a straw.

-thermacel. Get a small bottle of bug spray if needed

-Camp towel

-About 1/4 roll of TP for 3 days, vacuum packed into single servings.

-cotton hand towel

-(1) one gallon ziploc for trash

-25 to 50 feet paracord

-mosquito net or fleece beanie.

-Sleeping pad pump/pillow (roll up clothes)

-Fork and spoon, use a Ti Spork

-Blast match. A BIC lighter and vaseline soaked cotton swabs in a photo film canister work great for fire

-Tape measure

-Extra batteries. Lithiums will last well over 3 days

-Snacks I'd choose some more calorie dense snacks than whats listed. shoot for 100 calories an ounce minimum.

-Flashlight or headlamp, pick one. not both.

-lantern not needed

-camp knife. Use your havalon

-no side arm. bear spray if needed.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2015, 08:18:08 PM »
ive refrained from comment until you mentioned to be open to input, so the glaring gear is the pad. im also not one to sacrifice too much comfort, but man, that pad is heavy! second heavy item is pillow, i have a VERY comfortable pillow at 2.5oz.
alot of other weight could just be left behind, without spending any $$.
havalon blades, really no weight, but it goes along with the mindset. shouldnt need more than 4 for any critter and long as you let the sharp do the work and dont pry with them.
agree with one of the two beanies, either swap for seasons or just take the warmer one.
i like the thermacell, but on a backcountry hunt, i cant see bringing one, heck i dont even bring spray. just try to hang out in a breeze. if my camp was going to be buggy for protection or water, id maybe concede a bug coil.
towels, if you need a towel maybe just one, or check out the lightload towels. they work well.
i pack two pair rubber gloves, for damaging first pair with havalon or second animal..
agree with silk on the firstaid kit, mine is similar. although i disagree with leaving the emerg blanket as i think theyre great for boning meat on. also i do carry a backup light, petzl e-lite. 1oz. other than that its just zebralight with 1 spare batt.
trade moleskin for leukotape, its awesome. stays on skin, multi purpose.
stove fuel, take 110g canister. you shouldnt need more than 5g per boil. if you know how to run your stove, less. also, scratch your boils in the side like hash marks. figure out how many you get per can on avg going forward. dial it in.
you filter is pretty heavy. i know its a good filter but in the kit, do you extraneous items? heavy sack, zipper?
consider trioxane as a fire starter. cheap. works awesome. light.
bone saw, for deer, is the saw worth carrying to maybe skull cap? elk, leave in the rig and bring back in after a load to cap so you dont have to haul it all week. bear, i cant think of any use.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2015, 09:56:15 PM »
Lots of good info here! Keep going guys. I am making my wish list.  :tup:
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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2015, 10:26:08 PM »
OK did some clean out :) I have to admit some of this crap has been shuffled from pack to pack and not even looked at for years !
Jetboil and TP is for two guys ( didn't say that to start with )
I removed the snacks as that's what's in my day pack for around home not backcountry ,the Thermacell is from a fishing trip last month ( you can afford a lot of crap with out a rifle ) as for the pistol I do not carry if I have a rifle BUT do with my bow or scouting off season the first list is kinda a master list so I have weights but the way I posted it looks like I carry all of it at once ( I did have to much first aid )
I  appreciate the input !

Back country pack inventory
NO FOOD

rubber gloves 2 ounces 3 pair
Bone saw 5.3 ounces
Havalon with 4 blades 2 ounces

 Medical  emergency pull out total weight 11.6 ounce

Emergency blanket
Superglue,compact first aid kit,Six cough drops, Ibuprofen, 3 Imodium, Benadryl,Chapstick
Sunscreen
Backup water filtration straw

MSR mini works water filter no bag 16 ounce
Jet boil flash with full fuel 22.4 ounce for 2 people
Backpack rain cover 4.4 ounce
Camp towel in Ziploc bag 2 ounce
1/2 roll of toilet paper in Ziploc bag 2 ounces

50 feet para cord 3.5 ounce

Clothing stuff sack total weight 31.2 ounce

Frog toggs rain pants and jacket ,Down puffy jacket
Wool underwear ,Sitka wool beanie and gloves
Sitka baklava
Waterproof compression stuff sack for clothing
Spare wool socks

Sleep system total weight 108.7 ounce
Big Agnes tent 43.7 ounce
Big Agnes insulated double Z sleeping pad with pump bag 34 ounce
Cocoon pillow 6.3 ounce
Enlightened equipment quilt in compression stuff sack 24.5 ounce

Miscellaneous small pull out total weight 9.5 ounce

Ben's 100% DEET
Salt-and-pepper
Long titanium spoons plastic fork
Ink pen
fire gel 
Bic lighter
Flagging tape
Three extra AAA for headlamp
Extra 123 for flashlight
Map


Headlamp 3.6 ounce
Eagle TAC LED flashlight 1.6 ounce
Mora camp knife 3.9 ounce
Vortex Viper HD spotting scope 15 x 45  51.4 ounce
Vortech summit SS tripod 30.8 ounce

Stone glacier 3300 solo with krux frame three-piece belt two small side pouch spotting scope pouch nylon pistol holster 77 ounce
Stone glacier meat/dry bag 4.6 ounce
MSR water bladder 2 liters 80 ounce

 

TOTAL Pack actual weigh 30lbs9oz  with water
41.5 with rifle and ammo


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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 07:07:09 AM »
Better! Could still do without a flashlight and camp knife IMO. Check  out the Exped Synmat Winterlite pads. FTF and Silk turned me onto them and its a sweet 4.9 R value pad at 15oz.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2015, 07:13:47 AM »
not sure what vaseline is for besides fire starter, if you're stranded you are better off making a signal fire than blowing a rape whistle.


I don't mean to derail this but this made me laugh  :chuckle:

For you real serious ounce counters...do you carry your camp on your back all day or spike out and return at night?  I prefer the latter in which case I just load the pack down to 60 lbs and have a few extra comforts  :dunno:
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 07:17:02 AM »

not sure what vaseline is for besides fire starter, if you're stranded you are better off making a signal fire than blowing a rape whistle.


I don't mean to derail this but this made me laugh  :chuckle:

For you real serious ounce counters...do you carry your camp on your back all day or spike out and return at night?  I prefer the latter in which case I just load the pack down to 60 lbs and have a few extra comforts  :dunno:

It's not the pack in that's the problem...it's the pack out. If I can have my pack at 40 versus your sixty, that's twenty pounds less with an animal...

There is a noticeable difference between 140 lbs and 120 lbs when packing.


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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 07:18:20 AM »
That's very true.  I probably don't go in anywhere near as far as most of you guys.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2015, 08:07:27 AM »
not too long ago i pulled up an old packing list of mine. 2011 i think. it was a long weekend bearhunt. it was the same weight as my 10 day pack going into colorado last year  :chuckle:
keep chipping away at it. sometimes it just takes a fresh perspective to point out things.

as far as comfort, i dont feel like ive given up much in the way of comfort. that 2011 list didnt even have a pillow. and i know the 10 or so hours a day im under those pack straps are much more comfortable!

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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 08:33:38 AM »
 That's why I posted 34 years of hunting I'm not new to backcountry hunting but I am new to walk in backcountry hunting and more or less the ponies don't care how much stuff I take 😜
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Re: Swift's backcountry pack inventory
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 08:46:26 AM »

There is a noticeable difference between 140 lbs and 120 lbs when packing.
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Not that much - Two 70 lb trips vs two 60 lb trips.
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