Shooting coyotes while deer hunting

[grundy53]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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[Landowner]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations. 

[Karl Blanchard]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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I think anytime your talking agriculture areas (dayton), fawn predation will be lower due to the large amount of mice, which are much easier to catch than deer.  Sage and timber country the deer predation is higher due to less rodents.  I've read some good research on the subject that pretty much states exactly that.  Val Geist goes into good detail on coyotes pressure and its effect on deer.

[Karl Blanchard]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations.

Must have been typing at the same time.  I agree.  Be glad your deer pop is booming though, I hunt on the north side of the river and they just continue to decline.  Mule deer in north america as a whole continue to decline actually.

[Landowner]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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I think anytime your talking agriculture areas (dayton), fawn predation will be lower due to the large amount of mice, which are much easier to catch than deer.  Sage and timber country the deer predation is higher due to less rodents.  I've read some good research on the subject that pretty much states exactly that.  Val Geist goes into good detail on coyotes pressure and its effect on deer.

Agreed, that makes sense. 

[turbo]

See them every year and have never pulled. Not sure why I would spoil my hunt but I'm a rifle hunter. I've always wanted a reason to shoot them but can't come up with one unless it's a problem on your property. 

[Landowner]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations.

Must have been typing at the same time.  I agree.  Be glad your deer pop is booming though, I hunt on the north side of the river and they just continue to decline.  Mule deer in north america as a whole continue to decline actually.

I'd be in favor down here with a  moratorium on killing any mule bucks for 3 years, and then open it up to limited drawing only for a few years to see how it works out.  There isn't any other way to get the legal mulie buck population up with the lack of cover and current hunting pressure IMO. 

[Karl Blanchard]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations.

Must have been typing at the same time.  I agree.  Be glad your deer pop is booming though, I hunt on the north side of the river and they just continue to decline.  Mule deer in north america as a whole continue to decline actually.

I'd be in favor down here with a  moratorium on killing any mule bucks for 3 years, and then open it up to limited drawing only for a few years to see how it works out.  There isn't any other way to get the legal mulie buck population up with the lack of cover and current hunting pressure IMO.

    Hard to live past 2 1/2 when you can't escape a quad or pickup truck. 

[packmule]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations.

Must have been typing at the same time.  I agree.  Be glad your deer pop is booming though, I hunt on the north side of the river and they just continue to decline.  Mule deer in north america as a whole continue to decline actually.

I'd be in favor down here with a  moratorium on killing any mule bucks for 3 years, and then open it up to limited drawing only for a few years to see how it works out.  There isn't any other way to get the legal mulie buck population up with the lack of cover and current hunting pressure IMO.

    Hard to live past 2 1/2 when you can't escape a quad or pickup truck.

Spot on statement there.

[GameHunter1959]

I live with them every day (a lot of coyotes) and see scat pretty much every day.  Rarely have seen sign of fawn consumption.  But see a heckuva lot of rodent hair.

The coyotes must be different where I frequent.

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As I mentioned, it could be that there is a difference in rodent populations from one area to another.  Lots of grain and legumes here, and lots of rodents as easy hunting for coyotes because of the food supply.

But with boots on the ground every day in the middle of where these animals live, I'm pretty comfortable with my views and those of my neighbors that coyotes have negligible impact on a deer population that has been booming for many years now, and is higher than it probably has ever been in our area.    I will say, though,  that I won't be surprised with the drought we are in (and look to be in for a while) that the drought may have a negative impact for a while on deer populations.

Must have been typing at the same time.  I agree.  Be glad your deer pop is booming though, I hunt on the north side of the river and they just continue to decline.  Mule deer in north america as a whole continue to decline actually.

I'd be in favor down here with a  moratorium on killing any mule bucks for 3 years, and then open it up to limited drawing only for a few years to see how it works out.  There isn't any other way to get the legal mulie buck population up with the lack of cover and current hunting pressure IMO.

    Hard to live past 2 1/2 when you can't escape a quad or pickup truck.

Spot on statement there.

Or the pumpkin patch of hunters in every draw and canyon. And don't forget the trillion doe permits throughout SE WA. Dayton may be "booming" in deer population, but I think that is more related to the majority of the hunting ground being private or closed to hunting.

How is the deer population doing in the PSE and Pacific Corp wind farms, which house a trillion hunters annually?

The WSDFW ruined that area of Marengo/Dayton with too many hunters, doe permits, youth, and 65 older permits. Not near the deer there once was.

[Seabass]

Never pass up a chance to shoot a dog! I rip one almost every year from my stand. I have actually shot a buck minutes after ripping a dog.

Last season I thought I saw a dog on his way in while on stand during late archery. I stood up and grabbed my bow and when I turned around (very slowly) I was shocked to see that the moving brown I had seen at 75 yards turned out to be a cat. I smoked that sucker at 17 yards. Had I been a passer of dogs I would have never had the opportunity to shoot that cat. Not many dudes have killed cats with a bow and when they have it's typically the cat in the tree and the hunter on the ground.

[MountainWalk]

Kick his ass , Seabass.

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[erk444]

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