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Offline Jolten

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Help design an arrow.
« on: September 13, 2015, 06:38:48 PM »
New to this archery thing, but my arrows are driving me crazy. They group well but the length of them are nagging me. So any suggestions are appreciated.

My set up currently : Diamond Infinite Edge Pro set at 27" draw and a draw weight of 60lbs. Arrows are currently at 29.5in from center of nock to end of insert.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 07:06:13 PM »
Why do you have them cut as long as you do? Most guys in my experience are +\- 1/2 inch of their draw length for their arrow and that usually meets the parameters of the spine chart for brand of arrow. I usually cut mine to be even with the riser, for the reason if they are cut shorter and that arrow with broad head were to pop off my rest it would be on my hand which I don't like. I have actually had it happen in a non hunting situation and it is not a fun experience.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 07:18:09 PM »
I bought the bow at cabelas. ( I know bad idea). The guy who set me up there I don't think knew exactly what he was doing. As he just guestimated everything. I knew my draw length and he said I needed +2 inches. As soon as I shot the first arrow it kinda itched at me that something isn't right. I was thinking 27in arrows would be ideal
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 08:32:22 PM »
What arrows are you shooting. Only way to know if you can go shorter is by looking at the arrow spine chart. Hopefully the insert doesn't get in the way if you can have them cut again, like eastons H.I.T inserts can.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 08:48:34 PM »
Are you wanting input for specific brands and spine selection?  I have a program called archers advantage.  It is pretty handy in selecting the proper arrow for your bow set up.  If you are really wanting to do it right, you would figure out what your Front of Center would be before you just go with an arrow with a 100 grain tip.  I ended up getting Black Eagle Rampage arrows with a 56 grain insert and a 100 grain head.  It put me at 12% FOC and a 512 grain arrow.  They are 31.5 inches long, I have a 32" draw length.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2015, 09:01:26 PM »
Blank canvas. I'd like 27in lengths. Not a fan of lumenocks. Would prefer carbon over fiber glass or aluminum.
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2015, 09:42:35 PM »
27 inch gold tip kinetics. 400 spine.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 10:39:52 PM »
Easton arrows have never let me down. Axis arrows with their smaller diameter will penetrate better and be less effected by cross wind. Their tolerances on weight have always been with in spec and they shoot straight. A .400 spined arrow is most likely going to be what you need, but you should consult a spine chart to make sure that is the correct selection.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 03:11:53 PM »
Would I need to worry about gpi any?
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 06:12:22 PM »
Yes gpi is a huge thing to get your arrows to legal weight unless you add brass inserts or gold tip fact weights. Your arrows should be close to your draw length unless you need them to stick out of your riser for say turkey heads. If you need any help let me know I can get you set up and going and ill have a press and arrow cutter soon to start cutting arrows and tuning. I personal like certain arrows but it comes from shooting a lot and knowing what works. Radsav can chim in and help a lot too.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2015, 06:22:14 PM »
Would I need to worry about gpi any?

Gold tips tend to be light arrows and you may have to add weight to make them legal. Easton I have never had a problem with Making legal weight. I am not sure about carbon express, victory or other arrow manufacturers.

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2015, 07:01:17 PM »
How would one add weigh? Wraps inserts?
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2015, 07:03:01 PM »
Yes gpi is a huge thing to get your arrows to legal weight unless you add brass inserts or gold tip fact weights. Your arrows should be close to your draw length unless you need them to stick out of your riser for say turkey heads. If you need any help let me know I can get you set up and going and ill have a press and arrow cutter soon to start cutting arrows and tuning. I personal like certain arrows but it comes from shooting a lot and knowing what works. Radsav can chim in and help a lot too.

I may take you up on that.
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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2015, 07:11:35 PM »
How would one add weigh? Wraps inserts?

Heavier weight in field point/broad head, brass inserts, wraps, weight tubes, wraps...

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Re: Help design an arrow.
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2015, 07:12:58 PM »
Let me know I've helped a lot of people. I'm not the greatest out there but I'm sure I can help.

 


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