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Re: Yellowstone elk increase as wolf numbers decline
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2015, 02:21:49 PM »
I wonder if Idaho/Wyoming had to spend $850,000 to have a facilitator figure this one out...??
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Re: Yellowstone elk increase as wolf numbers decline
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2015, 07:35:13 AM »
YNP elk should be rebounding, the wolf population has dropped significantly, in addition to eating each other and moving to other areas to find prey, those wolves are also being hunted and their numbers further reduced when they leave the park.

You will never see the YNP elk herd rebound to the levels of the early 1990s, unless the Elk Management Plan in MT is substantially revised.

If you read the plan, you will note that the YNP herd and adjacent Gardiner units are AT objective.  FWP is mandated by law to manage AT or BELOW the objectives for the EMU.  Any hopes for 20k elk again are about as likely as wishing for unicorns.
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Re: Yellowstone elk increase as wolf numbers decline
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2015, 09:46:53 AM »
 :yeah:
YNP elk should be rebounding, the wolf population has dropped significantly, in addition to eating each other and moving to other areas to find prey, those wolves are also being hunted and their numbers further reduced when they leave the park.

You will never see the YNP elk herd rebound to the levels of the early 1990s, unless the Elk Management Plan in MT is substantially revised.

If you read the plan, you will note that the YNP herd and adjacent Gardiner units are AT objective.  FWP is mandated by law to manage AT or BELOW the objectives for the EMU.  Any hopes for 20k elk again are about as likely as wishing for unicorns.

It was always the plan. Once you get past the fact that they turned wolves loose to do the job instead of increasing tags/limits it's a fact that the herd was going to be culled, big time.

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Re: Yellowstone elk increase as wolf numbers decline
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2015, 10:13:16 AM »
:yeah:
YNP elk should be rebounding, the wolf population has dropped significantly, in addition to eating each other and moving to other areas to find prey, those wolves are also being hunted and their numbers further reduced when they leave the park.

You will never see the YNP elk herd rebound to the levels of the early 1990s, unless the Elk Management Plan in MT is substantially revised.

If you read the plan, you will note that the YNP herd and adjacent Gardiner units are AT objective.  FWP is mandated by law to manage AT or BELOW the objectives for the EMU.  Any hopes for 20k elk again are about as likely as wishing for unicorns.

It was always the plan. Once you get past the fact that they turned wolves loose to do the job instead of increasing tags/limits it's a fact that the herd was going to be culled, big time.

It's the stockgrowers lobby that is behind this.

Edit:  Not behind the wolf intro, but behind the EMU objective numbers and legislative mandate. You could kill every wolf, griz, and cougar in Park Co and you'll still never see an increase in elk numbers.
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