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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2015, 07:00:07 AM »
Waterproof bivy and a tarp is the way to go. I used to tent it but got to be to much hassle setting up and taking down. Save your money for a quality lightweight bag. Sleeping pads are ok but if you look you can find a nice grassy, mossy spot to sleep. Sawyer mini water filter, jet boil for food, big bag of brown rice with cut up beef jerky, your set. I try and go in at no more than 30 lbs cause I might have to come out with 150. My pack weight used to be 50 till I killed a big muley way back in the Alpine Lks. Came out with 160 on the back. 6 hr hike and couldn't even sit down to take a rest :chuckle:  Keep it simple.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2015, 07:46:55 AM »
Waterproof bivy and a tarp is the way to go. I used to tent it but got to be to much hassle setting up and taking down. Save your money for a quality lightweight bag. Sleeping pads are ok but if you look you can find a nice grassy, mossy spot to sleep. Sawyer mini water filter, jet boil for food, big bag of brown rice with cut up beef jerky, your set. I try and go in at no more than 30 lbs cause I might have to come out with 150. My pack weight used to be 50 till I killed a big muley way back in the Alpine Lks. Came out with 160 on the back. 6 hr hike and couldn't even sit down to take a rest :chuckle:  Keep it simple.

30 pounds with gun, water, and food?!

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2015, 07:57:34 AM »
Im around there now....it's doable, especially on the shorter,  early season outings.
Water is obviously the variable here though!

I agree with previous comments on shelter: 4season is too much! I picked up a Mountain Smith LT and it has been OUTSTANDING! held up in some rough stuff, and only weighs 2lb.

Like others have said,  you whittle it down by trial and error: my first high hunt was 50+ lbs for 2 days!

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2015, 08:04:05 AM »
Waterproof bivy and a tarp is the way to go. I used to tent it but got to be to much hassle setting up and taking down. Save your money for a quality lightweight bag. Sleeping pads are ok but if you look you can find a nice grassy, mossy spot to sleep. Sawyer mini water filter, jet boil for food, big bag of brown rice with cut up beef jerky, your set. I try and go in at no more than 30 lbs cause I might have to come out with 150. My pack weight used to be 50 till I killed a big muley way back in the Alpine Lks. Came out with 160 on the back. 6 hr hike and couldn't even sit down to take a rest :chuckle:  Keep it simple.

30 pounds with gun, water, and food?!

Yes......my high hunt pack is actually about the same weight as my day hunt elk pack..go figure..

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2015, 08:18:42 AM »
Impressive. Obviously there are many factors that impact the pack weight. Weather, distance in, length of trip, water source at camps location, and gear.

But if rain/snow (below freezing) is expected then I'll have an additional layer of clothes, rain gear, and my warmer bag. I always have spotting scope and my tripod. If I'm going 5+ miles (average) I'll have 2-4 Quartz of water. And of course a 9lb gun. Seems like 30lbs would be very difficult to achieve with those added factors.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2015, 08:26:12 AM »
I can do 30lbs all in but not with a rifle, even my 7lb ultralight. I feel pretty good going in with just 40lbs including all gear, food water and rifle with ammo though.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2015, 08:50:20 AM »
I can do 30lbs all in but not with a rifle, even my 7lb ultralight. I feel pretty good going in with just 40lbs including all gear, food water and rifle with ammo though.

I've got improvements to make weight-wise. I can be under 40 without my rifle and with 1 liter of water, but that's all I got. A liter of water is all I would hike with anyway.
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I think a bigger gear improvement for me would be the size thing. I think I could upgrade to a more packable sleeping bag. I lose a lot of space there I think.
Most of the stuff I have is of a decent enough weight for me. I'm not really an ounce counter type.


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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2015, 08:58:51 AM »
Rookie gear mistakes... RAIN GEAR! first year doing the high hunt, didn't bring any. Woke up to 2-3 inches of snow then turned to rain sucked, but still tons of fun. Tent, I use my 15yr old 3 season north face 2 person tent. Other then the poles elastic being broken still works and repels water, FYI they are willing to warranty the poles still
Sleeping bag, I don't know I'm currently in the market as well.
Most of my gear is old, and maybe heavy, but still works like a champ. Heck, my whisper light stove is pushing 25yrs old and still works like it did on day one


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So I've got good raingear for fishing and stuff (Grundens, Gage, etc.. but it's all really loud). Is there quieter stuff available nowadays?

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2015, 09:27:35 AM »
I have the First Lite Stormtight set. It's not ultra quiet but it's lightweight and breathes very good.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2015, 09:28:36 AM »
Never done the high hunt but..... Check out the BA Zirkel UL sleeping bags and the Q-Core SL Pad. I also have the a Klymit sleeping pad that is nice. Go to Promotive.com and join the U.S. Army team and you can get some killer deals on some backpacking stuff. I also like the Sawyer water filters. 
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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2015, 09:29:24 AM »
Rookie gear mistakes... RAIN GEAR! first year doing the high hunt, didn't bring any. Woke up to 2-3 inches of snow then turned to rain sucked, but still tons of fun. Tent, I use my 15yr old 3 season north face 2 person tent. Other then the poles elastic being broken still works and repels water, FYI they are willing to warranty the poles still
Sleeping bag, I don't know I'm currently in the market as well.
Most of my gear is old, and maybe heavy, but still works like a champ. Heck, my whisper light stove is pushing 25yrs old and still works like it did on day one


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So I've got good raingear for fishing and stuff (Grundens, Gage, etc.. but it's all really loud). Is there quieter stuff available nowadays?

More than noise, I'd be concerned with functionality and packability.
Marmot Precip is good stuff, as is all the Sitka, Kuiu, First Lite, etc.
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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2015, 09:39:13 AM »
I can do 30lbs all in but not with a rifle, even my 7lb ultralight. I feel pretty good going in with just 40lbs including all gear, food water and rifle with ammo though.

I've got improvements to make weight-wise. I can be under 40 without my rifle and with 1 liter of water, but that's all I got. A liter of water is all I would hike with anyway.
 :dunno:
I think a bigger gear improvement for me would be the size thing. I think I could upgrade to a more packable sleeping bag. I lose a lot of space there I think.
Most of the stuff I have is of a decent enough weight for me. I'm not really an ounce counter type.

I was basically the same prior to this year, I had been packing around a 5lb northface synthetic bag and got an EE 20 degree quilt, a big agnes q core SL, borah gear side zip cuben/argon bivy and a little blow up pillow, all rolled up and cinched down in a 5 string kifaru compression bag. That and a seek outside lil bug out with 3 part vestibule, all this made a huge difference in weight as well as room it takes up in my pack. I did a little of the ounce counting until I learned my lesson on going too light, but its stuck to me to some extent.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2015, 09:54:56 AM »
More than noise, I'd be concerned with functionality and packability.
Marmot Precip is good stuff, as is all the Sitka, Kuiu, First Lite, etc.
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Thanks. I was looking at the Kuiu stuff some-the guide jacket and the Chugach rain jacket etc. Also looked to see what ASAT has. I really like their camo pattern, but I'm not sure I'm sold on their raingear quality.

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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2015, 09:55:36 AM »
I got the BA pad recently. I had a decent enough pad before that but this one's a little better I guess. I have either a GoLite SL5 or a BA Fly Creek UL1 so I'm pretty good there. The bag will likely become a quilt soon. That will help a lot. I think the biggest problem I have is leaving stuff at home that I won't absolutely need.  Too much food, comfort items, etc.
I fill my 6k bag pretty much completely.
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Re: High Hunt in 2 years- rookie gear mistakes
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2015, 10:02:28 AM »
Never done the high hunt but..... Check out the BA Zirkel UL sleeping bags and the Q-Core SL Pad. I also have the a Klymit sleeping pad that is nice. Go to Promotive.com and join the U.S. Army team and you can get some killer deals on some backpacking stuff. I also like the Sawyer water filters.
Thanks for the tip on Promotive.com. I use the Sawyer mini.

 


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