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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2015, 02:27:57 AM »
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Radsav is right on with barrel makers. I prefer Lilja. length 24-28 will fill your needs. If they make the caliber you want.
Timney triggers are great single stage drop in.
Just as important as the other 2 is glass. If you can't see it, you won't be able to hit.

Have fun with the build  :brew:
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2015, 08:22:44 AM »
If you want to stick with factory ammo I think the 300 WM or 7mm RM are ideal options. If you were to handload, the 7/375 Ruger or 7mm Dakota would be my pick. I'm partial to the Ruger case but the Dakota gives identical performance.

For the build specs:

Benchmark 28" stainless varmint contour barrel. Have it nitrided so that it matches your action.
keep your stock
Jewel JT-10 trigger

You'll be less than $1000 into the build and have lots of money to spend on optics.

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2015, 10:48:57 AM »
Thanks every one!! This is just what I was hoping for, lots of knowledgable opinions!

I will admit, I am surprised at the sugguestions on keeping the factory wood stock...

I do love the natural wood look and feel over synthetic, but surprises me that isn't one of the first things everyone says to toss!!

Keep'em coming....gonna be a long winter, likely without any hunting for me, so this is like therapy!!!
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2015, 12:35:28 PM »
I am not positive you will be able to use that stock once you choose a barrel. A heavy varmint contour could be too much diameter for a sporting stock to adapt. 

Manners has their aluminum chassis FN/Police Special stocks for the 70 on sale quite often for around $500.  That's one heck of a stock!  Pretty sure Stocky's carries them.  Those guys give great service!  I think Carpsniper2 deals with HS Prec. and they have similar quality.  I've seen HS sporting stocks with chassis for under $350 on occasion. 

One stock I have always fantasized about is the Eberlestock Stealth chassis.  Glen has been saying they are going to make it in a Win 70 since 2011.  Not sure if he has succeeded in doing that yet.  But I think that would be a rather cool man toy none of your friends would have!  8)

For laminated stocks for a heavy contour 70 I think you will need to order an unfinished product from Richards Microfit.  I love their stuff!  But it will be a project to get it just right.  That's fun and relaxing to me...others might not think so. :dunno:
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2015, 07:15:06 PM »
For laminated stocks for a heavy contour 70 I think you will need to order an unfinished product from Richards Microfit.  I love their stuff!  But it will be a project to get it just right.  That's fun and relaxing to me...others might not think so. :dunno:

 +1, I've done a few of theirs and love them, will be doing more in the future.
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2015, 10:47:11 AM »
Okay, been doing some looking around out on the old inter-web. This is my working outline so far:

Custom Winchester Model 70 Build

New barrel - Benchmark, Sendero contour (if possible), or ??, in .300 Win Mag

Twist rate?? Best for 180 - 200ish weight bullets or suggestions...

Action work - Benchmark shop

Muzzle brake - Benchmark Miller, medium

Bolt knob upgrade - larger sized

Stock - McMillan A2 w/pillars and bedded

Trigger - Jewell or  Timney, other than cost, is there really much of a difference?

New bottom metal - Suggestions?? Currently factory 2 piece...

Optics and mounting hardware are a conversation for another day, but what are the thoughts, opinions and/or reccomendations based on the above for the base rifle?


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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2015, 10:56:00 AM »
26 inch stainless Lilja in factory Winchester Sporter contour, 300 wby, the factory model 70 trigger is usually fine, I like MPI stocks but McMillan are nice too. 

I like the 300 Wby because the trajectory is almost identical to the 243, 22-250 and 17 Rem out as far as I shoot them and I shoot them a lot at chucks and prairie dogs every year.  I have never seen a need for a heavier barrel on medium a big game rifle.  If we were talking 340 Wby or something larger I may change my mind and go up a bit.  Those old model 70 triggers have been OK usually.  I like to get away from wood on rifles used in crappy weather conditions like western Washington. 

FWIW, I have one almost exactly like that w/the McMillan stock.  It came from Winchester that way and except for taking the thermoplastic bedding out and bedding it all I do is shoot it. The factory barrel is 24 inches, if I shoot the throat out I will replace it with a 26" Lilja.  My rifle shoots the first three shots into about a half inch at a hundred yards, and then they open up.  But I have never shot more than a shot or two at game animals.   

http://www.gundigest.com/ammunition-reviews-articles/greatest-cartridges-300-weatherby-magnum
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2015, 10:58:11 AM »
well, this is what I did.

Factory Weatherby MKV with standard bolt face

270 winny

27" sender contour barrel from Benchmark

Timney Trigger

stock is stock.

it's a shooter.

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2015, 11:00:42 AM »
another view

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2015, 11:02:45 AM »
I like what you are building there, but you would be able to get better accuracy out of the gun you have now with new glass on it if you were to reload yourself apposed to building a custom and running factory ammo through it. kinda like buying a dragster and putting regular unleaded in it :twocents:

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2015, 04:55:40 PM »
Try the 7mm practical that is based on the 300 Win. Case. A 27" barrel would be about right in a number 4 contour. Add a good trigger and add a MacMillian stock and start shooting.

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2015, 06:40:52 PM »
Really, in all candidness, what is so hard to understand about:
I don't reload, so need a factory round.?

Not to mention that the overwhelming majority of wildcat rounds are duplicated by factory rounds, out performed by factory round or are just plain poorly designed to begin with, the man is not interested in a rifle chambered for a wildcat cartridge.  I own, and have owned an Oehler 33 and an Oehler 35P, for decades and have chronographed a lot of wildcat rounds and precious few of them live up to claims made.  Truth be known, very few come close. 



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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2015, 04:41:55 PM »
Box the barreled action up and send it to Pac-Nor in Oregon. Have them do all the work you need done in one shot. Since you don't reload that leaves you with the best choice for "Way out there" being in all good sense and performance the .300 Winchester Magnum. You can purchase your "Way out there" factory ammo here.

http://www.buyabmammo.com/300-winchester-magnum-230gr-berger-match-hybrid-target.html

A 26" stainless, 10 twist, super match barrel, throated for the Berger 230gr OTM's should do you right.

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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2015, 05:27:24 PM »
Must be the end of the year thing to do, rifle season is over and we start dreaming of new rifles. Good advice in this thread glad I read through it lots of differing perspectives from the people that have already built rifles.  :tup:
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Re: Build me a rifle....
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2015, 06:42:47 PM »
Really, in all candidness, what is so hard to understand about:
I don't reload, so need a factory round.?

Not to mention that the overwhelming majority of wildcat rounds are duplicated by factory rounds, out performed by factory round or are just plain poorly designed to begin with, the man is not interested in a rifle chambered for a wildcat cartridge.  I own, and have owned an Oehler 33 and an Oehler 35P, for decades and have chronographed a lot of wildcat rounds and precious few of them live up to claims made.  Truth be known, very few come close.




Hasty, you magnificent *censored*!! :chuckle:... That's why after research going with the
New trendy round..........?....... 6.5x55 :yike:
Double the speed of sound and no more string jump! :dunno:


That's censored , really.  BoBkitten is that you?

I have exactly ONE wildcat and it is a 10 inch Contender barrel chambered in 37 Herrett  and it really is a hot little number.  I have been at the range with chronographs set up and had people ask to shoot wildcat rounds over them and....

Now, that being said the guys that are really serious probably have access to a laboratory grade chrono and they are not the ones I have personal experience with.  This much I will tell you though, some of them don't know how to use a chronograph to get an idea of when they are outside of acceptable pressure limits.  I have seen a lot of brass with serious extrusion into the ejector slot or hole in the bolt face that has been sheared off laying on the bench after they decamp for the day.       

 


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