Author Topic: Wild Steelhead ... Poached??? (Read 9556 times)

cohoho · « **on:** January 17, 2009, 04:54:04 PM »

I got this from Bearhunter59, he asked me to post the pics, cuase he couldn't at the time...

Today a total of 12 WILD steelhead carcasses that were laying on the shore at the Soos Creek boat takeout "Green River" at the Auburn Black Diamond bridge just off of Hwy 18. They had their sides filleted off of them, but the eggs weren't taken. I called the WDFW and the officer said he'd stop by later and look at it, but there wasn't anything else he was going to do about it. He thinks maybe the tribals caught them in nets down lower on the river and brough them up here to fillet. Doesn't sound very logical to me...seems like it was probably someone that illegally netted the fish right there and fillet them right there...

wackmaster · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:11:05 PM »

PolarBear · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:16:10 PM »

Looks like some ass clown was practicing "fillet and release".

270Shooter · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:17:42 PM »

That really sucks.

backyard bucks · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:26:33 PM »

not a good picture at all

Red Dawg · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:45:40 PM »

that is a terrible thing to do although it does look like at least a couple of them are clipped.

Why cant they just stick to salmon

kingsalmonkllr77 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2009, 07:49:02 PM »

not cool

FrankDown · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2009, 07:54:54 PM »

Im working on a website and am looking for material about the tribes and incidents like this. If you can get permission to use the photos on the internet please let me know. I understand that we dont particularly know WHO did this, but SOMEONE did this and is unacceptable. It is WILD STEELHEAD that have been killed.
You can pm me with any information you have about the pics.

THanks

jackelope · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2009, 07:59:09 PM »

that sucks...some look to be clipped, but still too bad.

hopefully he already has permission to post them on the net...cuz he already did once.

bearhunter59 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2009, 09:15:58 PM »

my pics, and you can post as you see fit. I know I was fit to be tied when I saw it. Man, it just sucks...everyone of them was wild. not a clipped fin in the bunch. They looked like they had been laying there for a while, maybe a day at the most though. I've been out of town for most of the week, and I was just stopping by there, to see how high the water was, on my way back from stopping at the tackle shop. I was thinking if it wasn't too high, i'd give it a shot tomorrow. But, it looks too high for my liking. Anyway, there really isn't much the gamie is going to be able to do anyway. Not much to go on.

JACKALL · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2009, 07:46:08 AM »

That really sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PolarBear · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2009, 07:47:08 AM »

Let them poach all the chums they want but nail them to the wall on anything else!!!!!!

TeacherMan · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2009, 08:09:44 AM »

HawkenBob · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2009, 06:30:18 AM »

Aint no whity poaching that many natives without a gill net. And that would be pretty tough given the location of the lower Green. Given the white translucent fins there fresh out of salt.
Caught in a tribal net, which is legal, taken home, filleted, and taken back to dispose of the bodies. (In a crappy blatent manner I might add)

The Dorsals that are ledgible are clearly pen raised with there stooped over appearance. Many, many hatchery fish are missed or miss clipped.

Still sucks that they are laying there and not in the water were all can see. But at least they brought em back so the nutrients can help feed the smolts and such.

Alchase · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2009, 10:12:02 AM »

We use to see dump truck loads exactly like that dumped up on the Skokomish River. The piles would be 3-4 ft tall and 20 ft in diameter. You could smell them from 1/4 mile down river. They all came from the nets.

boneaddict · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2009, 10:20:45 AM »

Saw a pile of kings on the Skok, with nothing taken but hte eggs. I'm talking thousands of fish. Probably more than alot of runs on most rivers.

Intruder · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2009, 10:49:43 AM »

That's terrible.

FrankDown · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2009, 11:55:11 AM »

Does anyone have any pics of these sorts of things?

Antlershed · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:50:07 PM »

Here is a good collection of photos FrankDown. All from WA rivers.

Gill Netting Pics

FrankDown · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:24:14 PM »

I got my foot hung up in a gillnet walking in the river here. About everytime I go to a river I see remnants of nets that are left laying around.

SHANE(WA) · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:04:38 AM »

Thats sickening, they are slobs

Fishhog · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:43:02 AM »

Tribes "stewards of the land" HA !!!!!! Sad...... just sad!!!!!

HawkenBob · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:18:43 PM »

Boy they are slobs!
And its a good thing they dont take pictures of our fishing areas. And list all the access's that have been closed due to garbage from sportfishers. They might get more land if they know how some abuse it. Lol

Alchase · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:04:11 PM »

Quote from: HawkenBob on January 20, 2009, 12:18:43 PM

Boy they are slobs!
And its a good thing they dont take pictures of our fishing areas. And list all the access's that have been closed due to garbage from sportfishers. They might get more land if they know how some abuse it. Lol

Sad but true, most boat ramps I go to have trash issues, just not in the mass were taking here.

HawkenBob · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:28:40 PM »

You need a trip to Blue creek boat launch on the Cow.

And the white plastic hay bail wrappers strewn about on the Nootch.

I could go on and on about both sides. I fish with both sides.

These native fishing pics are not boat launches. There areas of heavy use, like ours. No different in my opinion.

Although, trash is one thing, ghost nets in rivers keep killing. Everyone loses in this respect. It should be counted, and go against said quota at least.

As far as egg striping, thats what there raised for. To make escapemant for the hatchery, the fish must be rippened, then eggs and sperm harvested. The fish are so ripe by now there no use to anyone. But supply the river with the nutrients required to keep the bio going. Yea, they should strewn them about more, and get em in the water, but thats money and time too. Plus, with everyone against them especially the ignorant ones who post meaningless, knowledgless posts. What better way to say "in your face MF!" Right

Get in my face and call me a slob, Ill knock ya down and spit all over ya too.

The more stabs and the more you make em look bad, the more in your face they are going to be.

HawkenBob · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:46:56 PM »

Quote from: boneaddict on January 19, 2009, 10:20:45 AM

Saw a pile of kings on the Skok, with nothing taken but hte eggs. I'm talking thousands of fish. Probably more than alot of runs on most rivers.

Thats because the Skok has one of the biggest and most consistant runs of Kings. They have a huge escapment number so the run that comes back supports the 30 some nets and 1000's of Cowboys riping them in by there tails leaving there garbage everywere too.

You might only get back 2% of your smolt output. It takes 100,000 successful smolts to bring back 2000 fish. Its about the same percentage for egg to smolt ratio. And thats almost a pure hatchery run. so you can see. It takes thousands of ded fish to make that run. Or any other run. Also, those plies are from hatcheries mostly. The State and native run and or staff these hatcheries. And many volunteer to strip eggs at hatcheries in the fall. As well, dump carcusses.

These piles are there because everybody wants some...

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