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This last comment gets me. "Well he baits on that property and draws all the animals off of where I hunt. Cry me a river and either start DOING something about or quit whinning. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS ABOUT BAITING COME FROM ROAD HUNTERS NOT WILLING TO GET AWAY FROM THE CROWDS AND JEALOUS OF PRIVATE LAND BEING TIED UP BY GUIDES OR LEASES PERIOD. They see all the deer on private property, Aand get jealous. And of course they were hunting ethically on public ground, and not trespassing LOL how else would they know where the bait piles were and how many animals were on it? Our grandfathers would kick our ass for being such a whiney group of outdoorsman and ashamed we are taking our own rights away to hunt one at a time. How pissed off would you be if some guy hunting in your area wanted to outlaw the way your grandfather tought you how to hunt on your own land? With the only reasoning just bc he was jealous of the animals on your property? This gets much too far into the my way is much better than yours and you should have to do it like me or Im gonna go pout until I get some sympathy. Whatever happened to strapping up, putting in your big boy shorts, realize that there are many more people just like you that have to work harder every year to keep on good animals, and start getting to work on a plan to make YOUR OWN hunting area just as successful as the ones you're complaining about. My good god people these days think that everyone else's business is their own and it's their right to tell others how they should live on a daily basis and call the cops/government about it if they don't get their way. Truly sad Era we are moving into...ENTITLEMENT
Quote from: LabChamp on March 31, 2016, 01:17:17 PMThis last comment gets me. "Well he baits on that property and draws all the animals off of where I hunt. Cry me a river and either start DOING something about or quit whinning. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS ABOUT BAITING COME FROM ROAD HUNTERS NOT WILLING TO GET AWAY FROM THE CROWDS AND JEALOUS OF PRIVATE LAND BEING TIED UP BY GUIDES OR LEASES PERIOD. They see all the deer on private property, Aand get jealous. And of course they were hunting ethically on public ground, and not trespassing LOL how else would they know where the bait piles were and how many animals were on it? Our grandfathers would kick our ass for being such a whiney group of outdoorsman and ashamed we are taking our own rights away to hunt one at a time. How pissed off would you be if some guy hunting in your area wanted to outlaw the way your grandfather tought you how to hunt on your own land? With the only reasoning just bc he was jealous of the animals on your property? This gets much too far into the my way is much better than yours and you should have to do it like me or Im gonna go pout until I get some sympathy. Whatever happened to strapping up, putting in your big boy shorts, realize that there are many more people just like you that have to work harder every year to keep on good animals, and start getting to work on a plan to make YOUR OWN hunting area just as successful as the ones you're complaining about. My good god people these days think that everyone else's business is their own and it's their right to tell others how they should live on a daily basis and call the cops/government about it if they don't get their way. Truly sad Era we are moving into...ENTITLEMENTWell said know if everyone could have common sense we would be much better off. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
I think too many on here are missing the point! It's not about rights. It's about herd management. Professionals are concerned for two reasons:1. The bait being used (apples) is not healthy for the mule deer in the winter. They equate apples to snicker bars. Would you let your child eat candy bars all winter long???2. The mass baiting (semi truck loads of apples) is potentially changing migration routes of the mule deer. Now, no research has been conducted yet - because it's time consuming and expensive. But if it is changing migration routes, and it's if that's bad thing, what should WDFW do?Believe it or not - I am pro baiting. And like EVERYONE else I'm against mismanagement of our natural resources. What options, suggestions do any of you have that would be inexpensive and easily enforceable to resolve the two issues listed above?
Quote from: emac on March 31, 2016, 02:32:34 PMQuote from: LabChamp on March 31, 2016, 01:17:17 PMThis last comment gets me. "Well he baits on that property and draws all the animals off of where I hunt. Cry me a river and either start DOING something about or quit whinning. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS ABOUT BAITING COME FROM ROAD HUNTERS NOT WILLING TO GET AWAY FROM THE CROWDS AND JEALOUS OF PRIVATE LAND BEING TIED UP BY GUIDES OR LEASES PERIOD. They see all the deer on private property, Aand get jealous. And of course they were hunting ethically on public ground, and not trespassing LOL how else would they know where the bait piles were and how many animals were on it? Our grandfathers would kick our ass for being such a whiney group of outdoorsman and ashamed we are taking our own rights away to hunt one at a time. How pissed off would you be if some guy hunting in your area wanted to outlaw the way your grandfather tought you how to hunt on your own land? With the only reasoning just bc he was jealous of the animals on your property? This gets much too far into the my way is much better than yours and you should have to do it like me or Im gonna go pout until I get some sympathy. Whatever happened to strapping up, putting in your big boy shorts, realize that there are many more people just like you that have to work harder every year to keep on good animals, and start getting to work on a plan to make YOUR OWN hunting area just as successful as the ones you're complaining about. My good god people these days think that everyone else's business is their own and it's their right to tell others how they should live on a daily basis and call the cops/government about it if they don't get their way. Truly sad Era we are moving into...ENTITLEMENTWell said know if everyone could have common sense we would be much better off. Sent from my XT1254 using TapatalkAre you f*&%&N kidding me??? Common sense tells me that Baiting is killing 75-100 of our mature bucks in November in two small GMUs. Thats just the guides. That doesn't include the bucks killed off bait by the average joe that dumps bin upon bin of apples or the guys road hunting or the guys spot and stalking. you can not tell me that is healthy for our herd. Iam a hunter just like you but I want to have something to hunt for years to come. I want my kids to have something to hunt. The three point or better law is awesome and has done wonders for the mature buck numbers. Baiting is just killing them off. I can promise you that many bucks would not be killed in November archery seasons if it wasn't for baiting. No iam not jealous of the guy that kills a 200 incher over bait. Bait hunting is not my thing.
