damage elk hunt being sold master hunt

[jackelope]

I don't think saying "he baits them in" is quite accurate.

They raise cattle and he feeds them on his property.....   He has to feed his cattle.

He charges an access fee to his property.    The same thing many landowners do.

I've never done this - I've never paid to hunt private land.   But, I'm not necessarily against it.

(If I could buy access via trespass fee to some good deer hunting land,   I might??)

The issue/concern/problem is in order to get landowner permits, a landowner has to have filed a wildlife damage claim with the state. So if the guy is filing wildlife damage claims with the state and getting LO damage tags, then it's sort of messed up if he's actually baiting the elk. If he's truly feeding the cattle, and the elk are incidentally eating it rather than his cattle...then it sounds like he's got a legit concern. I don't have an issue with the guy charging access to his land.

[Naches Sportsman]

If you want, I can pm pictures of the damage these private landowners do to the state owned fences. Recently, one of them blocked off the wildlife gates to keep the elk in. From the information I have, the same person who charges for the hunts is the one doing the damage.

[BOWHUNTER45]

There is so much going on with the Damage Kill Permits .. I know some landowners were charging access fees ..Not just timber companies but landowners in general ..Now what is happening is this : If a landowner gets a Damage kill permit they can only shoot a 5 pt or smaller . They get to keep the meat but have to forfeit the horns over to the dept . Not sure if this is the case all over the state but its happening up North . Also if there is Multiple landowners want a kill permit they have to share with their neighbor ...So basically one permit for 2 landowners ..they have to share the meat and only 1 landowner can kill the elk ..Whoever kills one 1st the permit is filled and hunting is over ..this is so messed up and makes me sick . They claim there are to many bulls So they can only kill bulls and they have to be smaller than a 6 pt ..Still no cows being harvested ! Not proper management at all !

[Bob33]

He's not selling damage tags, he's selling access to his land for master hunters.

This.

[huntandjeep]

There's alot of farmers around the valley that do this , also one up Chinook Pass and another towards Hanford

[Karl Blanchard]

If you want, I can pm pictures of the damage these private landowners do to the state owned fences. Recently, one of them blocked off the wildlife gates to keep the elk in. From the information I have, the same person who charges for the hunts is the one doing the damage.

Guy up in Naches used to pull the same stuff in an orchard.  This was over a decade ago though.

I personally don't agree with the damage control permits.  If your farming in elk country, fence your land.  Elk shouldn't have to pay the price.  Just my 

[Karl Blanchard]

There's alot of farmers around the valley that do this , also one up Chinook Pass and another towards Hanford

  That Alphalpha field was planted for one reason

[huntandjeep]

There's alot of farmers around the valley that do this , also one up Chinook Pass and another towards Hanford

  That Alphalpha field was planted for one reason

Yeah I know its sad.

[Bob33]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

[jrebel]

I have a huge problem with landowners charging access to land they don't want the game on.  They are essentially selling a resource that is not theirs.  If they elk are damaging their land and they have complained.....thus being granted damage permits.....it should be illegal to charge an access fee. 

With that being said, I have no problem with a fee to access private land for hunting when using a general and or special draw tag. 

[emac]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

I don't think that is the issue here. I think said person is damaging the elk fence so the elk can come on his property so he can charge an access fee. And also blocking the areas the elk can get back inside the fence so they stay on his property

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[Karl Blanchard]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

[Naches Sportsman]

Here was the latest picture I saw.

[Bob33]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

[huntandjeep]

I have a huge problem with landowners charging access to land they don't want the game on.  They are essentially selling a resource that is not theirs.  If they elk are damaging their land and they have complained.....thus being granted damage permits.....it should be illegal to charge an access fee.