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Author Topic: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No  (Read 120158 times)

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #375 on: December 27, 2015, 10:44:48 AM »

Need to get your 6.5 AR15 going!

That should end this little drama.

I'm the only person who can have a Cheytac based bolt gun built in less time than I can have a bunch of AR parts slapped together! When the AR is done I'll post pics of my new elk rifle. :chuckle: That should put all these 6.5 Grendel lovers in their place. If 2500 fps is good for 400 yards (but not 411) then 2700 fps can get me to at least 750!

It is hard to ignore the irony of a guy who's screen name is Biggerhammer being on the minimalist side of a cartridge debate. :stirthepot:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #376 on: December 27, 2015, 10:52:18 AM »

Need to get your 6.5 AR15 going!

That should end this little drama.

I'm the only person who can have a Cheytac based bolt gun built in less time than I can have a bunch of AR parts slapped together! When the AR is done I'll post pics of my new elk rifle. :chuckle: That should put all these 6.5 Grendel lovers in their place. If 2500 fps is good for 400 yards (but not 411) then 2700 fps can get me to at least 750!

It is hard to ignore the irony of a guy who's screen name is Biggerhammer being on the minimalist side of a cartridge debate. :stirthepot:

Maybe he just has a bighammer.  :yike:
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #377 on: December 27, 2015, 10:52:33 AM »

Need to get your 6.5 AR15 going!

That should end this little drama.

I'm the only person who can have a Cheytac based bolt gun built in less time than I can have a bunch of AR parts slapped together! When the AR is done I'll post pics of my new elk rifle. :chuckle: That should put all these 6.5 Grendel lovers in their place. If 2500 fps is good for 400 yards (but not 411) then 2700 fps can get me to at least 750!

It is hard to ignore the irony of a guy who's screen name is Biggerhammer being on the minimalist side of a cartridge debate. :stirthepot:
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #378 on: December 27, 2015, 10:59:07 AM »
Hammer- I didn't read the first several pages of this thread so I easily could have missed the post about an elk at 411 yards.

Hunt with what you want and shoot as far as you want. I don't care. I don't have time for this anymore. You know my opinion and I know yours.

Life will go on.

Thank you. That's exactly where I'm at and have always been. :tup:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #379 on: December 27, 2015, 11:03:36 AM »
 :chuckle:
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #380 on: December 27, 2015, 11:04:21 AM »

Need to get your 6.5 AR15 going!

That should end this little drama.

I'm the only person who can have a Cheytac based bolt gun built in less time than I can have a bunch of AR parts slapped together! When the AR is done I'll post pics of my new elk rifle. :chuckle: That should put all these 6.5 Grendel lovers in their place. If 2500 fps is good for 400 yards (but not 411) then 2700 fps can get me to at least 750!

It is hard to ignore the irony of a guy who's screen name is Biggerhammer being on the minimalist side of a cartridge debate. :stirthepot:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #381 on: December 27, 2015, 11:05:56 AM »
:chuckle:


I read that story on one of the forums she was by herself when she took that bull with a 6.5 Grendel.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #382 on: December 27, 2015, 11:06:20 AM »
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #383 on: December 27, 2015, 11:07:21 AM »
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #384 on: December 27, 2015, 11:07:46 AM »
:chuckle:


I read that story on one of the forums she was by herself when she took that bull with a 6.5 Grendel.


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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #385 on: December 27, 2015, 02:31:46 PM »
The ballistics are there,  but is it ethical?  I don't think so.  I'd say more animals are crippled than harvested at those long ranges. Just feeding the yotes.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #386 on: December 27, 2015, 02:35:12 PM »
The ballistics are there,  but is it ethical?  I don't think so.  I'd say more animals are crippled than harvested at those long ranges. Just feeding the yotes.
purely speculation . My bet is more elk are wounded and lost under 100 yards in thick cover . Just because  guys  fail to follow up on there shots.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #387 on: December 27, 2015, 02:41:14 PM »
The ballistics are there,  but is it ethical?  I don't think so.  I'd say more animals are crippled than harvested at those long ranges. Just feeding the yotes.
purely speculation . My bet is more elk are wounded and lost under 100 yards in thick cover . Just because  guys  fail to follow up on there shots.

Guess your remark is speculation too.  :chuckle:

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #388 on: December 27, 2015, 02:54:16 PM »

How many were shot at more than 400 yards with an AR15?
Absolutely zero but some were shot from a lot farther than that with a bullet traveling at similar velocities so I very much know how a bullet will perform at similar conditions.

Okay, there we have it. You actually don't have any experience with this topic. Not any more than I do. But I get my velocities off the box- yeah right. And I get all my information from the Internet. And I haven't hunted for 36 years in this state. I know so much less than you because, I don't know, I guess because I don't hunt with an AR and I don't shoot big game further than 400 yards.

I figured that out about ten pages back. 

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #389 on: December 27, 2015, 02:56:39 PM »
While everyone has been arguing the elk moved into a closed GMU so this is all moot now until next season.
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