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Claw marks on Alder trees
« on: January 14, 2016, 04:36:57 PM »
Last summer/fall in all my bear hunting areas I was noticing patches of alder trees that had scratches in them that resembled claw marks. I was noticing they were everywhere and one particular skunk cabbage patch had every single tree scratched. Are these from bear or cougar and has anyone else seen lots of this?

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 04:40:03 PM »
Like this?

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 04:42:21 PM »
Similar but deeper. I kept telling myself that it was from elk antlers because I hadn't seen any bears but it doesn't seem like antlers would make those marks they make more of a rub.

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 05:02:05 PM »
Looks a lot like porky
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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 05:12:50 PM »
Looks a lot like porky

Explain porky

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 05:14:23 PM »
porky is short for porcupine when a guy is feeling linguistically challenged
He asked, Do you ever give a short simple answer?  I replied, "Nope."

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 05:16:23 PM »
porky is short for porcupine when a guy is feeling linguistically challenged

Lol roger. I never thought of that you are probably right thanks!

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 05:16:56 PM »
Bear do mark a lot of alder and aspen.  Can be very deep.  But they are usually marked closer to shoulder or eye level.  Within 3' off the ground and often with just two claws it's usually porky testing for sugary sap in spring.
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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 05:20:09 PM »
Bear do mark a lot of alder and aspen.  Can be very deep.  But they are usually marked closer to shoulder or eye level.  Within 3' off the ground and often with just two claws it's usually porky testing for sugary sap in spring.

Most all of the markings I saw were at eye level for a bear. Now I'm wondering how you can tell a bear peel from a porky peel. This pic said it was porky peel

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 05:39:59 PM »
Now I'm wondering how you can tell a bear peel from a porky peel. This pic said it was porky peel

Looks like a porky peel to me!
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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 06:03:59 PM »
Porky will strip the top part of a tree not the bottom. I used to trap porky for a few timber company's back some years ago. Mean things when they are in a trap.

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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 06:19:03 PM »
Porky will strip the top part of a tree not the bottom. I used to trap porky for a few timber company's back some years ago. Mean things when they are in a trap.

That's interesting.  I've seen a couple working young trees at night in May.  Both were working the base of the tree.  Though we did have a cherry tree growing up that the little buggers worked while sitting on the first heavy branches.  Killed a darn good cherry producer!
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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 06:30:15 PM »
Bear do mark a lot of alder and aspen.  Can be very deep.  But they are usually marked closer to shoulder or eye level.  Within 3' off the ground and often with just two claws it's usually porky testing for sugary sap in spring.

Most all of the markings I saw were at eye level for a bear. Now I'm wondering how you can tell a bear peel from a porky peel. This pic said it was porky peel


This is a bear peel.




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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 06:31:21 PM »
Bear peels vs porcupine peels.
http://www.callingbears.com/peels.html




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Re: Claw marks on Alder trees
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 06:43:23 PM »
Bear peels vs porcupine peels.
http://www.callingbears.com/peels.html

That was an interesting read, thanks for the help! There's more to this than I thought

 


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