New Elk Starving Videos Mt Saint Helens.

[bbarnes]

See New Videos from Sun..
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http://www.youtube.com/MtSaintHelensRescue

[Huntbear]

He is blaming the hunters and the "unregulated hunting seasons" for the elk starving in the one videos?  Man this guy needs to get a clue.  More liberal drivel..... I was wanting to sign up to help until that statement.... 

[archery288]

His last word - uhhh??  Uhhh what?? 

[bbarnes]

The point of these videos is to raise awareness on Mt Saint Helens , And the surrounding areas.
#1 Over pursuit of the wildlife.  *Hunting seasons are to long in this area*.
#2 Animals are over stressed and under nourished, due to lack of habitat.
#3 Due to herbicide & pesticide spays on the clear cut there is NO FOOD.
#4 The worst winter on record since 1937.
#5 People need to take a active roll in helping the wildlife survive so we will have animals to hunt.
#6 Ask yourself what you can do to be Postive part of fixing this problem.
#7 This take a HUGE amount of time & money to do all of this. Any Donations would be greatly appreciated. With labor or dollars.
#8 Alfalfa is $300/ton or $20/bale
 

[Huntbear]

Raising awareness is one thing and bringing up habitat loss and such is something I agree with.  However, blaming us hunters for being part of the problem, when our purchases, fund habitat, and our game taking relieves some of the pressure on less habitat, is wrong!   

You want to point the blame, point it where it belongs, at the government, and the liberal mentality.  Elk need food, they eat grass.  Grass will not grow in standing timber, only in open areas, clearcuts, etc.....  Ban logging in this country and the elk habitat dies.  The reason elk have flourished in years past is due to logging operations clearing the land, so grass can grow until the newly planted trees grow. By the time new trees kill off the grass and vegetation, there are new clearcuts, and open areas with lots of feed.  It is funny(not really) that most of the starving elk are coming out of the National Forest?  While elk on Weyerhauser and other private timber company land are flourishing for the most part? 

Guess I need to get off my soapbox now.

[bucklucky]

The elk need a few good forest fires in the St Helens area , might help abit.

[spur_ride]

hey now guys. lets not get into a liberal bashing match here. lets just look at the issue at hand. the elk. its plain and simple. they need food and there is non there.no whether its over hunting or not. we all have to try and do something to preserve wildlife for future generations. 

[FrankDown]

We need to conserve wildlife, as it is a natural renewable resource.  Preservation means no hunting.  Therefore we need to conserve our wildlife, not preserve it.  Preservation leads to poor management practices.

Has anyone heard of this group before or know what their views are on hunting.

Someone was talking about the health of the Mt Helens herd somewhere, here maybe.  What are the rules and regs on that area?  Does anyone have any other info about the herd in Helens?

Does their group "Preservation of Mt Helens" support hunting or opposes hunting?  I will try to find a website or info later on.

This is from the Helens Preservation Website:
We are dedicated to the preservation of all WILDLIFE in and around the area by working with all agencies for controlled permit harvesting and game management for all people.

Not sure if their choice of words are wrong or if they are trying to preserve the wildlife.  Typically animal rights groups are preservationists where you dont use or hunt the animals.

Maybe the poster could clarify the questions I have.

#5 People trying to take a active roll in helping the wildlife survive so we will have animals to hunt

  This looks like a prohunting statement, but the video seems to put hunters in a bad light.  Im sure someone will flame me for posting this...

[bbarnes]

Thank You for all the comments . I have added some photos in my pictures of all the Elk from the feeding.

[FrankDown]

Can you answer any of the concerns that we are asking about?  We all want to help the elk, but we dont want to shoot ourselves in the foot either.

[mossback91]

#8 Alfalfa is $300/ton or $20/bale
 

wow hay is spendy where you are at thats for sure!

[ELKBURGER]

Mt.st.helens rescue is a group dedicated to the wildlife and the habitat. They are pro hunting and want to see the wildlife managed properly for all to enjoy. Bruce Barnes has gone above and beyond to expose the mis-managment of our game department, especially here in region 5. The video is easily mis interpreted. Bruce was refering to the many permits issued in that area. It use to be an area with quality bulls and good bull to cow ratios. Our game dept. sits back and watches st.helens rescue do thier job. Last year he raised $17,000.00 to sled in alfalfa to the starving elk, the game dept. did nothing! Please support groups like this one.

[alanger]

#8 Alfalfa is $300/ton or $20/bale
 

wow hay is spendy where you are at thats for sure!

yeah it is

[Slamadoo]

Sounds like a good cause. Im just wondering what you meant by those "hunting" and "unregulated seasons" comments? Im sure you have a reason for saying what you said and I am probably just not understanding you. How does hunting lead to starvation? Maybe you could re-do your video and be more clear.

The Conservation vs. Preservation point that Frank made is a very important one. They are two very different things and the differences between them go way back to the turn of the last century. They go back to the battles between Gifford Pinchot and John Muir. There is a great video about this called "Wilderness Idea."

Still sounds like a good cause though.

[KillzElk]

If some of you on here could just wake up and realize what he is trying to do for everyone  , Pay attention  Guess the ones that just don't get it wont have any animals to hunt anymore, also you will lose all you rights to carry a gun up in that area .. Like I said WAKE UP  get involved  go to the meetings. If you don.t know what is going on DON'T open your mouth .

I have been to both these sites and did my own research on this problem. Also personally been to several meetings, that the public never gets to speak at..  When these meetings are open to the public.

Great info here keep up the good work.

http://mtsainthelensrescue.com

http://www.youtube.com/MtSaintHelensRescue