collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Hollow based bullets  (Read 2944 times)

Offline Evil_EdwardO

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 1100
  • Location: Albion, WA
  • Groups: NRA, LPC, ASF, GOA, RLRR
Hollow based bullets
« on: February 10, 2016, 09:01:13 AM »
What are the advantages/disadvantages of hollow based bullets? Are they made so you can use more powder? Probably will never use them but was curious being a new reloader.

Offline Bill W

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1942
  • Location: Moses Lake
  • Groups: NRA, CBA
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 09:21:42 AM »
The only hollow based bullets I know about for smokeless powders are for handgun target shooting.  Those are usually of softer lead and do best when shot at lower velocities in the 700-800 fps range.

Now should you choose to scream them out as fast as you can you may notice a lack of rifling in your barrel.  It will then take about 3 days of scrubbing to remove the lead sheeting out of the barrel.  You may wonder how I know this.   And the fast loads with the HB (usually) wadcutters aren't accurate loads.

Offline theleo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1212
  • Location: Kennewick
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 09:32:51 AM »
They are meant to cause expansion at the base of the bullet to generate better contact between the bullet and the riffling. For some guns it makes a difference and for others not so much.

Offline Evil_EdwardO

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 1100
  • Location: Albion, WA
  • Groups: NRA, LPC, ASF, GOA, RLRR
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 09:39:05 AM »
These are the ones I saw (and others). They are 124g copper plated 9mm.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/25372

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7184
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2016, 09:41:56 AM »
Hollow based bullets are designed to improve obturation under lower pressures to increase muzzle velocity.

e.g. a shotgun slug benefits more from a hollow base design than a high pressure rifle would.

Thank you Claude-Étienne Minié.

Read about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball

Offline theleo

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1212
  • Location: Kennewick
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 12:18:13 PM »
These are the ones I saw (and others). They are 124g copper plated 9mm.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/25372
Those are meant to work as I mentioned. Expand the base more, obiturate, to make better a netter more consistent contact with the rifling. I'm not sure how well the concept works with plated bullets. It's something normally seen in straight cast lead bullets. Mainly target bullets for pistols, but some big bore rifle bullets as well. If you're 9mm has a little bit of a fat bore they might be worth trying.

Offline JDHasty

  • Past Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2015
  • Posts: 7045
  • Location: Tacoma
  • Groups: NRA Benefactor Member, GOA Life Member, Father of 3 NRA Life Members
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 12:29:20 PM »
Some Mod 52 Smiths would shoot great w/HBWCs and others preferred a DEWC.  So that was a consideration.  I used to shoot DEWCs, but I shot next to others who shot HBWCs and the mix was about even.  I never knew a revolver that would shoot HBWCs very well at all.  For some reason every once in a while a guy would show up with a Combat Masterpiece and a box of DEWC loaded ammo and that combination did not work well at all. 

Also the Rock Chuck Bullet Swedge used to be offered with a choice of base punches.  One would produce a cupped based bullet and they also offered a flat based punch.  Sometimes, actually many times, one configuration was better than the other in a particular rifle. 

Offline Evil_EdwardO

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 1100
  • Location: Albion, WA
  • Groups: NRA, LPC, ASF, GOA, RLRR
Re: Hollow based bullets
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2016, 12:38:27 PM »
Hollow based bullets are designed to improve obturation under lower pressures to increase muzzle velocity.

e.g. a shotgun slug benefits more from a hollow base design than a high pressure rifle would.

Thank you Claude-Étienne Minié.

Read about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball

Funny thing, I was just reading about the Minie Balls over the weekend. You think I would of put 2 and 2 together.  :bash:

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Sighting in - confused by dreadi
[Today at 12:04:06 PM]


What's your favorite elk hunting cartridge? by birddogdad
[Today at 12:00:15 PM]


49 Degrees North Early Bull Moose by vandeman17
[Today at 11:56:12 AM]


Article on trapping shrews by Humptulips
[Today at 11:27:20 AM]


GM 6.6l gas 6 speed vs. 10 speed? by trophyhunt
[Today at 10:15:54 AM]


Best Elk "muzzleloader Bullet" that I've found and (isn't) a muzzleloader bullet by greenhead_killer
[Today at 09:33:53 AM]


Muzzleloader scope options by MADMAX
[Today at 09:28:58 AM]


Stuck live round by Encore 280
[Today at 09:23:09 AM]


Adjustable hitch stinger by Ridgeratt
[Today at 08:39:50 AM]


Class A Diesel Motorhomes. by Jpmiller
[Today at 08:01:26 AM]


Winterizing a travel trailer? by Boss .300 winmag
[Today at 07:54:20 AM]


Nosler vs Hornady by jrebel
[Today at 07:01:28 AM]


Yale reservoir boat ramp by Blacklab
[Today at 06:52:32 AM]


Knight discontinuing Ultralite muzzleloader by Buckhunter28
[Today at 06:16:01 AM]


HH Report by redi
[Today at 12:12:15 AM]


Diagonal groups shooting coaching? by Caseknife
[Yesterday at 08:21:30 PM]


Westside Muzzy Rut? by Buckhunter28
[Yesterday at 07:26:20 PM]


Mossyrock Dam Bear by trophyhunt
[Yesterday at 07:15:48 PM]


GROUSE 2025...the Season is looming! by dub870
[Yesterday at 06:51:00 PM]


2025 deer, let's see em! by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 06:27:09 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal