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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 10:14:59 AM »
Don't get me wrong; I don't trust the federal government, especially when the word "environmental" is used. However, until there's some proof that what's being done is outside of the parameters of PR or the Fish Act, I'm not biting. Congress is well aware of PR and what the money is to be used for.
Per the P-R Act, if the money is required to be distributed to state fish and game departments, and instead its being given to the Department of Ecology, isn't that prima facie evidence of illegal distribution?  :dunno: 

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 10:19:26 AM »
Don't get me wrong; I don't trust the federal government, especially when the word "environmental" is used. However, until there's some proof that what's being done is outside of the parameters of PR or the Fish Act, I'm not biting. Congress is well aware of PR and what the money is to be used for.
Per the P-R Act, if the money is required to be distributed to state fish and game departments, and instead its being given to the Department of Ecology, isn't that prima facie evidence of illegal distribution?  :dunno:
It would be but the article doesn't say that. It says environmental programs not departments. F&W departments take part in and perform many environmental programs. I've read nothing that says these programs aren't being done by F&W departments. Furthermore, PR funds can be distributed to individual organizations performing habitat improvement or in the building of gun ranges. I see nothing in PR which requires the money funnel through the F&W departments. I could be wrong about that but I'd like to see how.
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2016, 10:27:24 AM »
Perhaps I'm wrong as well. I went to and read the original article and neither it or Faux News (Unfair and Biased) are clear to me. To me it reads like the money is going to state departments other than Fish and Game.

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 10:43:37 AM »
Perhaps I'm wrong as well. I went to and read the original article and neither it or Faux News (Unfair and Biased) are clear to me. To me it reads like the money is going to state departments other than Fish and Game.

It's meant to get people upset Faux is known for doing that without cause.
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2016, 12:08:36 PM »
Wholesale distrust of the government has been earned by them. Nearly everytime a large hunk of cash is sitting around some one is skeeming to care off some for thier own use. This will continue as gov get hungrier for cash as its usual supply dwindals.
P&R has been a huge sucess, but like many funding mechanisims for a specific purpose are being co opted.

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2016, 12:24:12 PM »
Well,  there is one nice thing about the PR Bill,  it has was is called a "jail" clause in it!   Ole Teddie K.  almost made it to jail over HIS attempt at "redistribution" of PR Funds!   Once it was brought to light to him,  he tucked tail and ran!!

The funds are ear-tagged,   any attempt at doing different with them,  Go To Jail!!    Those two senators KNEW how to write up a bill!!

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2016, 04:59:07 PM »
Don't get me wrong; I don't trust the federal government, especially when the word "environmental" is used. However, until there's some proof that what's being done is outside of the parameters of PR or the Fish Act, I'm not biting. Congress is well aware of PR and what the money is to be used for.
Per the P-R Act, if the money is required to be distributed to state fish and game departments, and instead its being given to the Department of Ecology, isn't that prima facie evidence of illegal distribution?  :dunno:

Guess would be yes. 
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2016, 05:00:47 PM »
I think one has to ask why Obama is involved specifically.  My guess is money is going somewhere it is not intended to go. :twocents:
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2016, 05:22:15 PM »
I think one has to ask why Obama is involved specifically.  My guess is money is going somewhere it is not intended to go. :twocents:

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2016, 02:34:07 PM »
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2016, 02:41:27 PM »
Makes me think of social security.  Congress is largely spendaholics.  Raid and spend........

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2016, 03:12:21 PM »
C'mon, the money is being funneled into an Al Sharpton Enviromentalist account, to help pay off his owed taxes..everybody knows that.
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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2016, 03:36:25 PM »
That or obama has bailed out kanye............

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2016, 04:51:00 PM »
I think one has to ask why Obama is involved specifically.  My guess is money is going somewhere it is not intended to go. :twocents:

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Re: Feds Mismanagement of Pittman Robertson Money for Environmetalism
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2016, 07:35:43 PM »
Elk, I'm shaking my head. Where did your quotes come from? When? The Pittman-Robertson tax has been around for about 75 years and until this anti-Obama thread started rolling, it seemed to do exactly what the law said. Read the law: shooting ranges, hunter safety, public access, etc.

 


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