Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land

[Pinetar]

Just curious w/o drama, what is he doing that is illegal? And what is he doing that he is being called an idiot for?

[huntandjeep]

Just curious w/o drama, what is he doing that is illegal? And what is he doing that he is being called an idiot for?

Driving cross country  ( as in no ATV trails )  just wherever he feels the need to drive.  And I called him a knucklehead not an idiot.

[Pinetar]

huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.

[huntandjeep]

huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.

I was just kidding about the knucklehead commit , didn't take it personal. I realize you can drive tracked rigs ON snow. Problem I'm seeing is he's driving it over snow , mud ,grass , sagebrush where ever he wants to drive it he does. If I had a set of tracks for my Jeep or my quad could I go where ever I pleased ?

[Pinetar]

huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.

I was just kidding about the knucklehead commit , didn't take it personal. I realize you can drive tracked rigs ON snow. Problem I'm seeing is he's driving it over snow , mud ,grass , sagebrush where ever he wants to drive it he does. If I had a set of tracks for my Jeep or my quad could I go where ever I pleased ?

Nope he should keep it on the snow or trails/roads

[jmscon]

These laws ARE in place to control people! If we don't control each other then there won't be anything left (plains buffalo comes to mind). And if people can't control themselves then there will be harsher laws in place, making it harder for law abiding hunters to go out and do what they enjoy doing.

Don't be afraid of being a rat. I don't have a problem turning someone in and it isn't for the extra points. They are essentially stealing from me too. The poacher, if caught, will pay the fine. But the ones who don't get caught are the ones that are going to ruin it for you and me.

Taking the Eyes In The Woods program is a requirement for completing the Master Hunter course and the wardens need all the help they can get! Under paid, under staffed and most people they confront have loaded firearms on them! Having people out there who are educated in getting more details to the authorities and can help catch some of these a-holes is invaluable!

 

[Duckslayer89]

These laws ARE in place to control people! If we don't control each other then there won't be anything left (plains buffalo comes to mind). And if people can't control themselves then there will be harsher laws in place, making it harder for law abiding hunters to go out and do what they enjoy doing.

Don't be afraid of being a rat. I don't have a problem turning someone in and it isn't for the extra points. They are essentially stealing from me too. The poacher, if caught, will pay the fine. But the ones who don't get caught are the ones that are going to ruin it for you and me.

Taking the Eyes In The Woods program is a requirement for completing the Master Hunter course and the wardens need all the help they can get! Under paid, under staffed and most people they confront have loaded firearms on them! Having people out there who are educated in getting more details to the authorities and can help catch some of these a-holes is invaluable!

 

A "master hunter" at my brothers work got busted for shooting a cow and his bullet went through killing another cow that ran over a hill and died. He got turned in and prosecuted. Some master hunter. That's something a 10 year old kid would understand. Don't shoot an animal with another one behind it. Duhhhhhh

[bearpaw]

I can understand being upset at horn poachers going in the closed areas (feeding areas), those guys are cheating everyone else and unless curtailed it will eventually cause more regulations to be forced upon those that obey the law. I fully support strengthening laws and punishment around the feeding areas.

However, these topics always seem to gravitate towards some folks wanting a shed season statewide. I would like to see the law enforced in the closed areas rather than additional laws imposed upon the rest of us. I do not agree with widespread closure (a shed season) outside feeding areas that prevents everyone from shed hunting until said shed season opens.

A pack of wolves, coyotes, or a mountain lion repeatedly chasing elk and deer in life and death situations where only the animals in the best shape survive causes far more stress on deer and elk than shed hunters who might bump the animals a couple hundred yards. This state welcomes more predators with open arms, there is your culprit causing harm to wintering animals. If you really want to save some deer and elk get out there and kill more coyotes and cougar. But please don't try to close the whole state to shed hunting when that is not really a significant factor as compared to stress caused from predators.

(please read the line in my signature)

[pianoman9701]

  I think it's unfortunate that people invite the government to further restrict us, but it's true.

[h20hunter]

Like Dale said, further abuse will lead to more restrictions.  Don't want public land closures, don't litter. Don't want shed restrictions,  don't break the laws.

[jmscon]

 

And someone ratted him out, good riddance! There will always be some bad apples ruining it for the rest of us! If that guy did shoot two animals and got busted he will never be able to be a Master Hunter again.

These animals are stressed out from not eating their normal diet, or not eating much at all. Chasing them with ATVs, snow machines, etc. can kill them! Most cows and does are pregnant with even more stress on their body. That's why these areas are closed and in my opinion all wildlife areas should be closed until Jan 1st - May 1st!

IMO there aren't many things that put more of a downer on my day hunting than walking back for miles on a closed logging road and having a bunch of guys drive by on their ATVs! Just turn around and walk out. No enforcement, people will do whatever they want.

[bearpaw]

ATV's are a prime example of what I am talking about. A few people abusing them have caused significant portions of the state and national forests to be totally closed to ATV use except for short sections of road in some areas. There's really no valid reason an ATV should not be legal to drive on any forest road open to any other motorized travel, yet abuse by a few have caused loss of opportunity to everyone.

To shed hunters in general, in your quest to stop horn poachers who are cheating in feeding areas please don't be so extreme as to cause a similar loss to all horn hunters across the state!

[pianoman9701]

ATV's are a prime example of what I am talking about. A few people abusing them have caused significant portions of the state and national forests to be totally closed to ATV use except for short sections of road in some areas. There's really no valid reason an ATV should not be legal to drive on any forest road open to any other motorized travel, yet abuse by a few have caused loss of opportunity to everyone.

To shed hunters in general, in your quest to stop horn poachers who are cheating in feeding areas please don't be so extreme as to cause a similar loss to all horn hunters across the state!

And unfortunately, the heavier restrictions only affect the people who obey the law, not the guys who didn't care from the start. They still ride wherever they want. Sound familiar? 

[kirkl]

Are there any maps that show the boundaries of these feeding stations?

[Naches Sportsman]

Are there any maps that show the boundaries of these feeding stations?

They show  the boundaries on the green dot road maps. Can get them at the wdfw office on 24th ave.