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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2016, 05:23:40 AM »
My cousin's neighbor had a grizzly bear under the porch of his house tearing the place up and he ought-sixed it.  Cost him $40k to deal with the fallout.  These leftists are an unmitigated menace. 

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2016, 05:38:49 AM »
Maybe Chase Gunnell should jump on here and make a comment. Very doubtful that he would or is just another of the lurkers. Probably too busy writing articles like this.
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2016, 05:48:03 AM »
Maybe Chase Gunnell should jump on here and make a comment. Very doubtful that he would or is just another of the lurkers. Probably too busy writing articles like this.

He's got enough supporters commenting already. :twocents:
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2016, 08:44:50 AM »
Maybe Chase Gunnell should jump on here and make a comment. Very doubtful that he would or is just another of the lurkers. Probably too busy writing articles like this.

Chase is as much a hunter as this doofus is a hunter:  http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2004/10/22/kerry_thinks_midwesterners_are_idiots_can_i_get_me_a_hunting_license_here

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2016, 08:52:41 AM »
I think you should get 10 bonus points for killing a wolf in Washington!!

Or a complimentary second deer or elk tag for the unit you killed the wolf in.

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2016, 08:57:44 AM »
Yeah right. First of all, it's a one-sided article written by a pro-wolfer about a problem which doesn't even exist. He talks about a couple of poaching incidents and then speculates the reasons for the slow growth of the wolf packs in the N. Cascades is poaching. He says one poaching incident is "unprosecuted". How are stiffer penalties going to change that? Could it be that hydatid disease or maybe echinococcus granulosus that's keeping their numbers low? Maybe some other disease that the USFWS ignored when they allowed them to fan out from the GYA. Or could it be that wolves are reproducing at a healthy rate, a rate predetermined by the scientists who designed the recovery from the start? There's not a bit of evidence that either shows their so-called slow pack growth is due any more to poaching than anything else, or that there's a problem with the population growth at all. It quite obvious to anyone who knows how to look at a map that the areas of fastest pack growth are also areas where poaching would be a greater issue (were it an issue at all) - the NE section of the state, where there are more people and more public land open to grazing. But there has been very little poaching in that area over the almost decade since they started moving in over there.
I agree with most of what you wrote above.  However, the author in this article largely presented hunters/hunting in a positive light to what is probably a huge non-hunting audience - and distinguished them from poachers.
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2016, 09:05:50 AM »
Yeah right. First of all, it's a one-sided article written by a pro-wolfer about a problem which doesn't even exist. He talks about a couple of poaching incidents and then speculates the reasons for the slow growth of the wolf packs in the N. Cascades is poaching. He says one poaching incident is "unprosecuted". How are stiffer penalties going to change that? Could it be that hydatid disease or maybe echinococcus granulosus that's keeping their numbers low? Maybe some other disease that the USFWS ignored when they allowed them to fan out from the GYA. Or could it be that wolves are reproducing at a healthy rate, a rate predetermined by the scientists who designed the recovery from the start? There's not a bit of evidence that either shows their so-called slow pack growth is due any more to poaching than anything else, or that there's a problem with the population growth at all. It quite obvious to anyone who knows how to look at a map that the areas of fastest pack growth are also areas where poaching would be a greater issue (were it an issue at all) - the NE section of the state, where there are more people and more public land open to grazing. But there has been very little poaching in that area over the almost decade since they started moving in over there.
I agree with most of what you wrote above.  However, the author in this article largely presented hunters/hunting in a positive light to what is probably a huge non-hunting audience - and distinguished them from poachers.

He is a tool.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2016, 10:11:49 AM »
Yeah right. First of all, it's a one-sided article written by a pro-wolfer about a problem which doesn't even exist. He talks about a couple of poaching incidents and then speculates the reasons for the slow growth of the wolf packs in the N. Cascades is poaching. He says one poaching incident is "unprosecuted". How are stiffer penalties going to change that? Could it be that hydatid disease or maybe echinococcus granulosus that's keeping their numbers low? Maybe some other disease that the USFWS ignored when they allowed them to fan out from the GYA. Or could it be that wolves are reproducing at a healthy rate, a rate predetermined by the scientists who designed the recovery from the start? There's not a bit of evidence that either shows their so-called slow pack growth is due any more to poaching than anything else, or that there's a problem with the population growth at all. It quite obvious to anyone who knows how to look at a map that the areas of fastest pack growth are also areas where poaching would be a greater issue (were it an issue at all) - the NE section of the state, where there are more people and more public land open to grazing. But there has been very little poaching in that area over the almost decade since they started moving in over there.
I agree with most of what you wrote above.  However, the author in this article largely presented hunters/hunting in a positive light to what is probably a huge non-hunting audience - and distinguished them from poachers.

The article has nothing to do with hunting. It doesn't matter whether the author mentions hunting in a good light or not. The anti-hunters will continue to associate poaching with hunting and the author has a solution for a problem which doesn't exist. He's just stirring up emotions for nothing.
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2016, 10:37:14 AM »
Yeah right. First of all, it's a one-sided article written by a pro-wolfer about a problem which doesn't even exist. He talks about a couple of poaching incidents and then speculates the reasons for the slow growth of the wolf packs in the N. Cascades is poaching. He says one poaching incident is "unprosecuted". How are stiffer penalties going to change that? Could it be that hydatid disease or maybe echinococcus granulosus that's keeping their numbers low? Maybe some other disease that the USFWS ignored when they allowed them to fan out from the GYA. Or could it be that wolves are reproducing at a healthy rate, a rate predetermined by the scientists who designed the recovery from the start? There's not a bit of evidence that either shows their so-called slow pack growth is due any more to poaching than anything else, or that there's a problem with the population growth at all. It quite obvious to anyone who knows how to look at a map that the areas of fastest pack growth are also areas where poaching would be a greater issue (were it an issue at all) - the NE section of the state, where there are more people and more public land open to grazing. But there has been very little poaching in that area over the almost decade since they started moving in over there.
I agree with most of what you wrote above.  However, the author in this article largely presented hunters/hunting in a positive light to what is probably a huge non-hunting audience - and distinguished them from poachers.

The article has nothing to do with hunting. It doesn't matter whether the author mentions hunting in a good light or not. The anti-hunters will continue to associate poaching with hunting and the author has a solution for a problem which doesn't exist. He's just stirring up emotions for nothing.

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2016, 10:59:21 AM »
Ever notice how common it is for anti-hunters/trappers to identify themselves as hunters when writing these type editorials? It is just a way to make themselves sound reasonable and they know there is no way someone can out them.
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2016, 07:20:50 PM »
Dosent matter if it's a million $ fine and life in prison.  Very few people would turn it a wolf killer where there are wolves.  If you live with them you don't see them as needing protection
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2016, 10:03:33 AM »
Dosent matter if it's a million $ fine and life in prison.  Very few people would turn it a wolf killer where there are wolves.  If you live with them you don't see them as needing protection

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ID, MT, and Wyoming went through the same bogus wolf introduction, with the USFWS and their state game agencies refusing to confirm wolf pack etc.. It doesn't take too long for the glorified wolves to lose their shine in rural areas when state game agencies refuse to be honest.

David Mech said years ago, what would hurt the wolf the most would be the lack of control, he was correct. Look at the damage that is done while waiting for any control.

 It has come down to the fact that calling WDFW for wolf problems will only prolong the killing of livestock while WDFW play patty cake with their environmental friends. And just like other states that have had wolves shoved on them, it is the public that is forced to protect their own interests by whatever means possible.

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2016, 05:33:02 PM »
Ever notice how common it is for anti-hunters/trappers to identify themselves as hunters when writing these type editorials? It is just a way to make themselves sound reasonable and they know there is no way someone can out them.

I thought the same after reading the article

It was obvious to me this uneducated goober never hunted a day in his life. This tactic is very common with the anti hunting anti gun libs

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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2016, 05:57:03 PM »
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Re: Seattle Times - Opinion Stiffer penalties needed for poaching wolves
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Back in the day you would get two bits and a sarsaparilla and a woman of the night as your reward

 


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