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So if the tribes get their permit and the state does not what is the coarse of action? Do we as sport fishers stand up and take a card from the enviro folks and sue NOAA for allowing gillnetting on rivers with esa protected salmon. They would have had to proform an EIS at one point I would think. We might be able to find a discrepancy in the EIS that would make it void and get a judge to put a hold on all fishing until it is fixed. That could put enough pressure on the tribes to be willing to work with WDFW.On a side note stay strong WDFW! Now is the time to take a stand and save salmon fishing for future generations.
So if PS salmon fishing is closed and the tribes are supposedly entitled to 50% of harvest and our harvest is 0% what are they getting 50% of? Who will be monitoring this quota? WDFW? Since we will not be on the water salmon fishing it should be easy enough for fish cops to focus on them.
Quote from: Huntin Hounds on April 28, 2016, 03:07:07 PMSo if the tribes get their permit and the state does not what is the coarse of action? Do we as sport fishers stand up and take a card from the enviro folks and sue NOAA for allowing gillnetting on rivers with esa protected salmon. They would have had to proform an EIS at one point I would think. We might be able to find a discrepancy in the EIS that would make it void and get a judge to put a hold on all fishing until it is fixed. That could put enough pressure on the tribes to be willing to work with WDFW.On a side note stay strong WDFW! Now is the time to take a stand and save salmon fishing for future generations.Great idea but lawsuits take money and the tribes are flush with it because of the casino's. I think we are better off making a huge noise to our elected officials to put pressure on NOAA to either fast track our permit or not allow the tribal permit until ours is approved as well.Email sent. To all of you on here that have friends, and family that gamble at these tribes establishments please remind them of what the tribes are doing to limit our access to our fisheries. Maybe if we can persuade a few thousand people to withhold their gambling for awhile the tribes may start to feel a pinch in their wallet.Quote from: Stalker on April 28, 2016, 03:44:39 PMSo if PS salmon fishing is closed and the tribes are supposedly entitled to 50% of harvest and our harvest is 0% what are they getting 50% of? Who will be monitoring this quota? WDFW? Since we will not be on the water salmon fishing it should be easy enough for fish cops to focus on them. WDFW and the state government have no jurisdiction over the tribes in these matters. Only the feds can police the tribes. This is one of the reasons every tribal member that gets caught breaking a game law is referred to the tribal court and not prosecuted in state courts.
Just saw that they're closing Lake WA and Lake Sammamish to ALL fishing starting May 1 due to this. What a cluster. Can't even go bass or perch fishing!WDFW NEWS RELEASE Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091 http://wdfw.wa.gov/ April 29, 2016Contacts: Larry Phillips, (360) 870-1889;Ron Warren, (360) 902-2799Several Puget Sound-area marine, freshwater fisheries to close May 1OLYMPIA – Five lakes and the lower sections of most rivers that flow into Puget Sound will close to all fishing beginning Sunday, May 1, when salmon and steelhead fishing also closes in the Sound.Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) officials said today they are closing state fisheries in waters where salmon migrate while they work to secure the federal permit required to hold salmon fisheries in Puget Sound. Typically, the state and tribes jointly obtain the federal permit for the Sound, where some fish stocks are protected under the federal Endangered Species Act. The current permit expires April 30. However, many fishing opportunities remain available in and around Puget Sound. WDFW has posted a list of rivers and sections of rivers that are open to fishing on its webpage at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/pugetsound_salmon_update. That page also has a list of Puget Sound area lakes that are closed to all fishing. “Since we didn’t reach an agreement with treaty tribal co-managers on this year’s Puget Sound salmon fisheries, we have to close fishing in areas where we know salmon will be,” said Ron Warren, head of WDFW’s Fish Program. For the next few months, those areas include several Puget Sound-region lakes and the lower reaches of streams where salmon smolts will travel on their way to the Sound. Lakes that will close May 1 to all fishing include Lake Washington and Lake Sammamish (King County), Monte Cristo Lake (Snohomish County), Lake Cushman (Mason County), and Barney Lake (Skagit County). Today’s action also applies to Puget Sound-area rivers that typically open to fishing in early June, though fishery managers will be evaluating those rivers to determine whether any can open on schedule. All non-tribal commercial and recreational Puget Sound salmon and steelhead fisheries, including those in Marine Area 13 and year-round fishing piers around Puget Sound, will close May 1 to salmon and steelhead fishing until further notice. More detailed information about marine area closures can be found online at https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/.The department is working with federal authorities and doing everything possible to re-open Puget Sound marine and freshwater fisheries, Warren said. “We regret having to close these fisheries,” Warren said. “We know this is a hardship on many communities around Puget Sound and disappoints many anglers.”In the meantime, Warren urged anglers to consider trying new fishing waters, emphasizing that most Puget Sound area lowland lakes remain open to fishing. Also, he said recreational fisheries in Puget Sound marine areas that are not affected by the closures include bottomfish, such as lingcod, Pacific cod and cabezon, as well as sea-run cutthroat trout and halibut. These fisheries are covered under a separate permit and are open as scheduled. Anglers should check the 2015-16 Washington Sport Fishing Rules pamphlet, available online at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations/, for details. Salmon fishing will continue as scheduled in the Columbia River and Washington’s ocean waters and north coastal rivers. Information on those fisheries can be found on WDFW’s webpage at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/northfalcon/.
All the state has to do is legalize gambling statewide. The tribal casinos will be bankrupt within 6 months and their cash flow will be stopped.It doesn't matter if the sportsman get a salmon season or not. The tribes will still fish and there isn't a thing the state can do to stop it. And if the runs turn out to be bigger than thought the tribe will take the sportsmans 50% share of the harvestable fish that we didn't get.
I seen on the news that the state didn't get their permit in and since they couldn't agree with the tribes then we lose a couple rivers and some lakes, maybe it won't be as bad as everyone first thought.. I agree with state casinos it would force the tribes hand, but we also have ourselves to blame, we the people voted casinos down, I voted for as I am sure a lot did but the Indians sure spent a lot to make sure it never passed...
