First time on a charter

[fishngamereaper]

Im more simply playing devils advocate here i hope you guys realized that when i said i dont smoke or drink on charters. Im not concerned about doing either my arms and hands are too busy and bloody to deal with that crap when im fishing

I simply feel that its silly that drinking something that can make you all pissed off, want to fight, and cause problems is legal to consume on a boat if youre not driving but something thats far less dangerous is illegal. More people should look at the facts instead of following the train

We can start another thread on this if you want. But if you want the facts I would invite you to attend the autopsy of a Pot smoker and compare it to that of the average drinker. 

[Fungunnin]

Here are a few things that will make your day on the water more enjoyable ....
Take sea sick meds if you are unsure.
Eat a light clean breakfast, coffee is not your friend if you are worried about getting sick.
Wear waterproof boots.
Bring raingear, even if the weather is supposed to be nice it can change quick offshore and getting wet and cold takes the fun out of fishing. Plus if there is any wind you can get a fair amount of spray on deck.
Bring extra clothes and leave them in your car. If you do get wet you are going to want to change as soon as you hit the dock.
Bring plenty of food and water. If you do get sick keep eating. If you can't eat anything keep drinking water. Dry heaving is the worst.
Foods that help calm my stomach are pretzels or saltines. Chips are good too. Ginger chews are great too.

Good luck and have fun!

[h20hunter]

Also, sunscreen.  Sun comes our when you get put there a bit and combined with the glare your face can get cooked!

[fishngamereaper]

I think I gave my last deck hand 40.00 I gave 20.00 for fileting the fish and 20.00 tip.

If the deck hand is worth their salt they will have all of the fish done before the boat returns to harbor, clean filets bagged on ice ready to take home, and then they will still have to stay behind and finish cleaning the boat. All the ones I have had only received tips and no compensation from the boat. If you become a repeat customer with the same deck hand they are apt to remember who you are and treat you well. 

I've never quite figured out the "no compensation from the boat" idea... in what other industries do we enforce a busker ideology to get ahead.  No captain can get a boat without being a deckhand and yet you live like a pauper or worse work for a captain that doesn't get on fish....

Exactly why a guy should be generous to a good crew. Example a charter of six guys $40 tip each equals $240 for the deck hand, but that deck hand is putting in a 12-14 hour plus day. They are at the boat before clients arrive and stay a couple hours after clients leave to prep for the next day.

If same guys only tip $20 each that is only $120 for 12-14 hours work which is hard to survive on even as a young person. 

I would agree for the 6 pack charters. But for the large boats with 15-16 passengers I think $40 is a little much.

[LabChamp]

Im more simply playing devils advocate here i hope you guys realized that when i said i dont smoke or drink on charters. Im not concerned about doing either my arms and hands are too busy and bloody to deal with that crap when im fishing

I simply feel that its silly that drinking something that can make you all pissed off, want to fight, and cause problems is legal to consume on a boat if youre not driving but something thats far less dangerous is illegal. More people should look at the facts instead of following the train

We can start another thread on this if you want. But if you want the facts I would invite you to attend the autopsy of a Pot smoker and compare it to that of the average drinker. 

Lets attend this together. Seriously brother id love it. Lets see the difference between people who took 4 tokes a day and comoare it with someone who drank 4 drinks a day. Guys who smokes will have lung damage from inhaling burnt plant matter, and the others liver will look like a dalmation in heat.

Heres another Fact youll love, There has NEVER been a recorded death in the history of mankind that has been linked to over dosing on THC.
Proof:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/marijuana-deaths_n_3860418.html
Im pretty sure that will sit nicely with all you beer drinkers bc im pretty sure you can find over 10 people who died from alcohol over dose alone last night

[Fungunnin]

Also, sunscreen.  Sun comes our when you get put there a bit and combined with the glare your face can get cooked!

Yes! Or one of those face sleeves, I think they are called a 'buff'. I started using one last year and absolutely love it! They are very popular in Cali and Florida but you don't see them as much up here.  I usually just keep it around my neck and pull it up over my face when the sun is out.
A hat is another key iteam.

[ctwiggs1]

Im more simply playing devils advocate here i hope you guys realized that when i said i dont smoke or drink on charters. Im not concerned about doing either my arms and hands are too busy and bloody to deal with that crap when im fishing

I simply feel that its silly that drinking something that can make you all pissed off, want to fight, and cause problems is legal to consume on a boat if youre not driving but something thats far less dangerous is illegal. More people should look at the facts instead of following the train

We can start another thread on this if you want. But if you want the facts I would invite you to attend the autopsy of a Pot smoker and compare it to that of the average drinker. 

Lets attend this together. Seriously brother id love it. Lets see the difference between people who took 4 tokes a day and comoare it with someone who drank 4 drinks a day. Guys who smokes will have lung damage from inhaling burnt plant matter, and the others liver will look like a dalmation in heat.

Heres another Fact youll love, There has NEVER been a recorded death in the history of mankind that has been linked to over dosing on THC.
Proof:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/marijuana-deaths_n_3860418.html
Im pretty sure that will sit nicely with all you beer drinkers bc im pretty sure you can find over 10 people who died from alcohol over dose alone last night

I, along with most I know, hate the smell of weed.  When my neighbor lights up, we all smell it for the rest of the night. And this is in a pretty nice neighborhood.  It's a nuisance.  Cigarettes don't even carry that far. 

I don't care if it's legal or not, if you smoke weed on a boat, you're out of line.  Others are paying to be there and fish, not to smell that skunk garbage.  And I'd say the same thing to the guy who's there to drink all day.

To the OP, I hope you have a great trip!

Curtis

[Dhoey07]

If weed settles your stomach, get some edibles that won't effect anyone else 

[Bluemoon]

a group of us went out on the Fury two weeks ago,  they had a flat fee of $6.00 for cleaning a limit of bass.  the two deck hands worked very hard especially when it came down to filleting 220 fish.  we each gave them $30.00 a piece for their hard work... 

[fishngamereaper]

Im more simply playing devils advocate here i hope you guys realized that when i said i dont smoke or drink on charters. Im not concerned about doing either my arms and hands are too busy and bloody to deal with that crap when im fishing

I simply feel that its silly that drinking something that can make you all pissed off, want to fight, and cause problems is legal to consume on a boat if youre not driving but something thats far less dangerous is illegal. More people should look at the facts instead of following the train

We can start another thread on this if you want. But if you want the facts I would invite you to attend the autopsy of a Pot smoker and compare it to that of the average drinker. 

Lets attend this together. Seriously brother id love it. Lets see the difference between people who took 4 tokes a day and comoare it with someone who drank 4 drinks a day. Guys who smokes will have lung damage from inhaling burnt plant matter, and the others liver will look like a dalmation in heat.

Heres another Fact youll love, There has NEVER been a recorded death in the history of mankind that has been linked to over dosing on THC.
Proof:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/marijuana-deaths_n_3860418.html
Im pretty sure that will sit nicely with all you beer drinkers bc im pretty sure you can find over 10 people who died from alcohol over dose alone last night

I see the affects on a daily basis, from both. I hear the same arguments on a daily basis. Mostly from the weed guys trying to defend why they do it. And don't believe everything you read...   And I've been to numerous autopsy's already and will go to many more I'm sure.

I don't want to thread jack this anymore Im done.

[elkfins]

Pretty sure that would go over like a ton of bricks!

Why? Its legal, just like alcohol and they let you drink all you want on the boat. To the point that half most charter boat clients are drunk or heavily buzzed by the time they hit the dock. Hoestly drunks piss me off far worse than stoners. Drunks are loud, ego filled, unfiltered *censored*s that arent affraid to fight 90% of the time. Stoners are happy, hungry, and sleepy. They have almost zero amount of drive to want to pick a fight. They would rather tell jokes, laugh, and possibly find a package of oreo's and milk.

How many men have you ever heard of smoking a joint and going home and beating their wives? NONE alcohol? Too many to count

How many fatal DUIs are cause by alcohol vs green every year? The numbers are all there alcohol takes many more lives in vehicle deaths per year by a landslide.

How often do you hear of a raging stoner causing problems in public? LOL never they want a cheeseburger and a slurpee oh and maybe a good spot to sut down and chill for a bit.

Funny how facts are often overlooked and swept under the rug in favor of political stand points like smoking green vs drinking. Drinking is far more dangerous both physically and mentally to your body but no one wants to say that out loud bc we accept alcohol as a part of our culture.

Fun fact of the day: George Washington: The father of our country kept meticulous diaries, wherein he noted “Sowed hemp at muddy hole by swamp” away from the hemp he grew for fiber. “Began to separate the male from female plants at do [sic --rather too late” and “Pulling up the (male) hemp. Was too late for the blossom hemp by three weeks or a month” indicates he was going for female plants with higher THC content. There is also indication he used hemp preparations to deal with his toothaches.

Even our founding fathers grew and used cannabis and hemp products regularly. It wasnt until the early to mid 1900s that our goverment filled our ears with false propaganda and began prohibition on this plant. It wasnt until then that our views as the public began to change.

Easy killer! Not all charters allow drinking. I would strongly recommend you check with the charter operator prior to lighting up. Plus the oceans are patrolled by the coast guard which operates under federal law not state law.

The charters ive been on certainly allow drinking. I dont light up on charters for the same reason i dont drink on them. Respect of the people around me. I simply think that the boats that allow you to drink, should without question allow you to smoke. Do washingtiin state laws change on a boat? Its obvious that the captain and crew have to be clean but does that pertain to the clients as well? So if i smoked before i got on the boat and tested positive for THC while i was on the charter would i get a ticket? I dont think thats right. Im pretty sure if youre not running the boat you can smoke, bc it is legal under wa state law

You are under federal law and Coast Guard jurisdiction on the water. Which still makes weed illegal.

This is correct.  While on any navigable waterways, the US Coast Guard (a Federal Agency) has jurisdiction.  They enforce federal laws and weed is illegal under federal laws.  No charter captain will knowingly allow it on their boat and if you get caught with it, there is a high chance that the trip will be cut short and the coast guard will be waiting for you at the dock.

[Eric M]

Go with Bonine for seasickness. There is some drowsiness, but not as bad as dramamine. Take it the night before you go. That way it's in your system already. Otherwise it'll just come up with everything else.

[RB]

I think I gave my last deck hand 40.00 I gave 20.00 for fileting the fish and 20.00 tip.

If the deck hand is worth their salt they will have all of the fish done before the boat returns to harbor, clean filets bagged on ice ready to take home, and then they will still have to stay behind and finish cleaning the boat. All the ones I have had only received tips and no compensation from the boat. If you become a repeat customer with the same deck hand they are apt to remember who you are and treat you well. 

I've never quite figured out the "no compensation from the boat" idea... in what other industries do we enforce a busker ideology to get ahead.  No captain can get a boat without being a deckhand and yet you live like a pauper or worse work for a captain that doesn't get on fish....

Exactly why a guy should be generous to a good crew. Example a charter of six guys $40 tip each equals $240 for the deck hand, but that deck hand is putting in a 12-14 hour plus day. They are at the boat before clients arrive and stay a couple hours after clients leave to prep for the next day.

If same guys only tip $20 each that is only $120 for 12-14 hours work which is hard to survive on even as a young person. 

I would agree for the 6 pack charters. But for the large boats with 15-16 passengers I think $40 is a little much.

Ahh good point I was thinking Six Pack type charters and not the larger boats yes $20 times 15 people equals $300 for a days work which is not too bad for a young deck hand.

[Fungunnin]

I think I gave my last deck hand 40.00 I gave 20.00 for fileting the fish and 20.00 tip.

If the deck hand is worth their salt they will have all of the fish done before the boat returns to harbor, clean filets bagged on ice ready to take home, and then they will still have to stay behind and finish cleaning the boat. All the ones I have had only received tips and no compensation from the boat. If you become a repeat customer with the same deck hand they are apt to remember who you are and treat you well. 

I've never quite figured out the "no compensation from the boat" idea... in what other industries do we enforce a busker ideology to get ahead.  No captain can get a boat without being a deckhand and yet you live like a pauper or worse work for a captain that doesn't get on fish....

Exactly why a guy should be generous to a good crew. Example a charter of six guys $40 tip each equals $240 for the deck hand, but that deck hand is putting in a 12-14 hour plus day. They are at the boat before clients arrive and stay a couple hours after clients leave to prep for the next day.

If same guys only tip $20 each that is only $120 for 12-14 hours work which is hard to survive on even as a young person. 

I would agree for the 6 pack charters. But for the large boats with 15-16 passengers I think $40 is a little much.

Ahh good point I was thinking Six Pack type charters and not the larger boats yes $20 times 15 people equals $300 for a days work which is not too bad for a young deck hand.

Except most of the larger boats run two deck hands.

[muzbuster]

I, along with most I know, hate the smell of weed.  When my neighbor lights up, we all smell it for the rest of the night. And this is in a pretty nice neighborhood.  It's a nuisance.  Cigarettes don't even carry that far. 

I don't care if it's legal or not, if you smoke weed on a boat, you're out of line.  Others are paying to be there and fish, not to smell that skunk garbage.  And I'd say the same thing to the guy who's there to drink all day.

To the OP, I hope you have a great trip!

Curtis
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Yeah that. X2!

Also Dramamine is available in NON drowsy formula, that is what I use whenever I go in the ocean and it works great.