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Quote from: jackelope on May 04, 2016, 08:59:15 AMQuote from: JDHasty on May 04, 2016, 05:37:03 AMQuote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra."His own research tells him..." That to me is clue # 1 to what seems to be going on here. I have met people who you could place in a padded room with two bowling balls and tell them to keep their mitts off the two bowling balls... then leave and come back an hour later and one ball would be lost and the other one would be broken. Some people just have a certain knack for screwing things up.My cousin had her vehicle, which was under warranty, parked at an undisclosed location (locked in my mother's garage) when she and my mother visited relatives in Ireland, which I thought was rather strange, until my mother reminded her of my cousin's shadetree jack-wagon husband the know-it-all. After marrying this clown this cousin has owned new vehicles that she gets rid of as soon as the factory warranty is getting close to expiring. Her husband is strictly forbidden to touch them w/a tool. Her previous vehicle to the one left for a month at the undisclosed location never had a problem and she loved the car, despite the fact that her husband "noticed some little issue," yea right, roll eyes, every time he sat in the car. He is and has been under strict orders to never touch her vehicle with a tool of any sort, however when she was on a trip to California Sir Brilliance took it upon himself to "fix" her vehicle. Needless to say, when she got home the car had real, not imaginary, issues. I know a dozen people who own 3.5 EcoBoost F150s and not a single one has had any major issue with it. There were major issues with 3.5L Ecoboost F150's. For sure. I work for Ford. It's a real thing. Just want to put that out there.Plus 1 on issues. The 2011-2012 had a few. Mine has the hard shift issue and from what I heard there was a reflash issued to solve that problem. However, the dealership tells me there isn't one for my 2012 yet?! I have the same shifting problems as other 2011 and 2012s, so whats going on? Is there a way I can verify on my own that there is or isn't a reflash issued for my truck, or do I need to trust the dealership?
Quote from: JDHasty on May 04, 2016, 05:37:03 AMQuote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra."His own research tells him..." That to me is clue # 1 to what seems to be going on here. I have met people who you could place in a padded room with two bowling balls and tell them to keep their mitts off the two bowling balls... then leave and come back an hour later and one ball would be lost and the other one would be broken. Some people just have a certain knack for screwing things up.My cousin had her vehicle, which was under warranty, parked at an undisclosed location (locked in my mother's garage) when she and my mother visited relatives in Ireland, which I thought was rather strange, until my mother reminded her of my cousin's shadetree jack-wagon husband the know-it-all. After marrying this clown this cousin has owned new vehicles that she gets rid of as soon as the factory warranty is getting close to expiring. Her husband is strictly forbidden to touch them w/a tool. Her previous vehicle to the one left for a month at the undisclosed location never had a problem and she loved the car, despite the fact that her husband "noticed some little issue," yea right, roll eyes, every time he sat in the car. He is and has been under strict orders to never touch her vehicle with a tool of any sort, however when she was on a trip to California Sir Brilliance took it upon himself to "fix" her vehicle. Needless to say, when she got home the car had real, not imaginary, issues. I know a dozen people who own 3.5 EcoBoost F150s and not a single one has had any major issue with it. There were major issues with 3.5L Ecoboost F150's. For sure. I work for Ford. It's a real thing. Just want to put that out there.
Quote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra."His own research tells him..." That to me is clue # 1 to what seems to be going on here. I have met people who you could place in a padded room with two bowling balls and tell them to keep their mitts off the two bowling balls... then leave and come back an hour later and one ball would be lost and the other one would be broken. Some people just have a certain knack for screwing things up.My cousin had her vehicle, which was under warranty, parked at an undisclosed location (locked in my mother's garage) when she and my mother visited relatives in Ireland, which I thought was rather strange, until my mother reminded her of my cousin's shadetree jack-wagon husband the know-it-all. After marrying this clown this cousin has owned new vehicles that she gets rid of as soon as the factory warranty is getting close to expiring. Her husband is strictly forbidden to touch them w/a tool. Her previous vehicle to the one left for a month at the undisclosed location never had a problem and she loved the car, despite the fact that her husband "noticed some little issue," yea right, roll eyes, every time he sat in the car. He is and has been under strict orders to never touch her vehicle with a tool of any sort, however when she was on a trip to California Sir Brilliance took it upon himself to "fix" her vehicle. Needless to say, when she got home the car had real, not imaginary, issues. I know a dozen people who own 3.5 EcoBoost F150s and not a single one has had any major issue with it.
A co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra.
Guy in my company bought the 3.5 after returning from Germany last summer. Brand new. Forgot what the issue was, but within a few months of problems the dealership bought it back.
Quote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra.Is it a misfire or is it a noise your buddy is experiencing? TSB 16-0027 addresses a noise that is a known issue. It is a new TSB and applies to 3.5GTDI built before 5/29/15. Relates to replacing VCT phasers on both banks and timing chain. If your buddy is anywhere near me, send me a pm. I'm happy to have my team look at his truck.The TSB 14-0017 regarding removing the air deflectors in the intercooler is on 2013-2014's. There's also a step in this TSB where you may or may not have to replace the left bank cat converter.
Quote from: jackelope on May 04, 2016, 09:17:18 AMQuote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra.Is it a misfire or is it a noise your buddy is experiencing? TSB 16-0027 addresses a noise that is a known issue. It is a new TSB and applies to 3.5GTDI built before 5/29/15. Relates to replacing VCT phasers on both banks and timing chain. If your buddy is anywhere near me, send me a pm. I'm happy to have my team look at his truck.The TSB 14-0017 regarding removing the air deflectors in the intercooler is on 2013-2014's. There's also a step in this TSB where you may or may not have to replace the left bank cat converter.Thanks for the offer unfortunately he lives in Indiana. We are familiar with the TSBs and supposedly the first dealership he took the truck to covered these, but I am starting to think they might be lying. They also are trying to tell the regional manager they have only worked on his truck one time, he has receipts proving otherwise.Same place is also a Nissan dealership. I took a Quest in there for a Nissan TB dealing with the ECU. The check engine light came on and 4 to 6 sensors codes were being read. According to TB, this was due to a computer number and it just needed to be reprogrammed which would also change the part number for the computer. When I went in they tried to tell me that the TB only applied to the Altima, I told them both were covered under the same TB. They tried to look it up and said they weren't. I had to go find it myself and print it out. When I showed it to them, they said, "Oh! We'll fix that come pick it up in an hour, it will be $100." Came to pick van up and check engine light was still on. I thought it was strange that they didn't reset with reprogram. I am in the process taking it to another dealership to confirm whether TB was performed or not. I believe it was not done since they also didn't set up the TPS to recognize the new valve stems that needed to be replaced (tire shop didn't have programmer to handle the task).
Quote from: JDHasty on May 04, 2016, 05:37:03 AMQuote from: jaymark6655 on May 04, 2016, 05:16:58 AMA co-worker has had two in the past two years. The first was the first year the eco-boost was in the truck and it never ran right, he didn't want to mess with it and sold it. Thinking that Ford had work all the problems out he bought another, newer model (2015). It misfires every cold start, took it into Ford and was told that all spark plugs and coil packs were bad on one side, they "fixed it". Next morning, same problem. Started doing research and Ford thought that the intercooler was making the intake air "too cold" and their solution was to block off parts of the intercooler. Personally, I think that is the dumbest thing I have heard off. If you hang around racing any you will see turbo car icing down their air intakes to get the intake air colder. Ford has since come back and started pulling all the intercooler shields off. Really what I think it is, Ford has a turbo motor with no catch can. My turbo car had a catch can from the factory. With the turbo motor, there is a lot higher cylinder pressure, causing more blow by gasses. Without the catch can a whole lot of crap is getting pushed into the intake and is blowing out the spark or in some really bad cases, locking up the motor. This truck has now been returned to the dealership three or four times. He has had to call the regional manager and they are having him take it to a different dealership. The other dealership has refused to even look at the truck. His own research tells him if he adds a catch can, the problem will be solved. However, doing so will void his warranty. Right now he is just trying to dump the thing and buy a Tundra."His own research tells him..." That to me is clue # 1 to what seems to be going on here. I have met people who you could place in a padded room with two bowling balls and tell them to keep their mitts off the two bowling balls... then leave and come back an hour later and one ball would be lost and the other one would be broken. Some people just have a certain knack for screwing things up.My cousin had her vehicle, which was under warranty, parked at an undisclosed location (locked in my mother's garage) when she and my mother visited relatives in Ireland, which I thought was rather strange, until my mother reminded her of my cousin's shadetree jack-wagon husband the know-it-all. After marrying this clown this cousin has owned new vehicles that she gets rid of as soon as the factory warranty is getting close to expiring. Her husband is strictly forbidden to touch them w/a tool. Her previous vehicle to the one left for a month at the undisclosed location never had a problem and she loved the car, despite the fact that her husband "noticed some little issue," yea right, roll eyes, every time he sat in the car. He is and has been under strict orders to never touch her vehicle with a tool of any sort, however when she was on a trip to California Sir Brilliance took it upon himself to "fix" her vehicle. Needless to say, when she got home the car had real, not imaginary, issues. I know a dozen people who own 3.5 EcoBoost F150s and not a single one has had any major issue with it. He had a problem, took it to the dealership. They replaced coil packs and spark plugs, he had same misfire in warm up the very next day. He took it back to them, they said something else was screwed up. Got the truck back still had the same problem. Took it back a third time and was told about the catch can by one of the guys working at the dealership. They took his car to work on it, called him said they had to replace the spark plugs and coil packs again (at his cost of course). About 15 minutes later he gets a call from the manager telling him there is nothing wrong with his truck, they didn't do anything, come pick it up. Of course he picks it up and it still is misfiring, so he starts researching online and asking questions. He is not anything like what you assume him to be. He wants the problem fixed because he doesn't want to buy another truck, but he also isn't doing anything because his truck is under warranty and he doesn't want to void that warranty. Right now he has called the regional manager, she told him to take it to another dealership. This other dealership does not want to work on it because the first dealership touched it. The first keeps telling him there is no problem or replacing parts that are breaking due to the problem not fixing the problem. All I know is he is about to take them to court. So dealerships might not buy trucks back, but I would be shocked if they don't end up with the truck and he ends up with his money being returned.As for the dozen people; thousands of people drive this truck and don't see any issue with it, but most people these days don't have a clue.
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Cool, I will try to get the VIN tomorrow. I could never figure out why they made him pay for spark plugs with the warranty, I don't think they made him pay for the coil packs.Its really sad because other than the problems he is having he loved the truck, even convinced three other people to buy one.
Jackelope, have you thought about just starting up a Ford troubleshooting blog? You rattle off real answers (not excuses) quicker than anyone I've heard! I wish I had a Ford just so I could play 20 questions with you.
Don't know about the Ecoboosts, my dad and a brother have had a few 5.4s and other then the spark plugs blowing out of the head and loosing coil packs and misfiring issues they haven't been terrible.