Concealed permit questions

[ghosthunter]

This is one of the worse places to get advice about carry laws in Wa.

These guys walk the walk every day. And there is a ton of good info here.

The sticky topic at top of page will answer all your questions with the correct answers.
 

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?131-Washington

[follow maggie]

Its easy to get the permit. Fill out a short form, get finger printd, pay th fay and it comes in th mail. Mine took less than a week to get to my mail box.

[Thehowler]

Quote from: jmscon on Yesterday at 10:21:29 PM
Concealed  Pistol License (CPL) allows you to carry a loaded pistol concealed under clothing or in a purse. Pretty sure it allows a loaded pistol in your vehicle. No seven day waiting period when purchasing a pistol.
Without a CPL you can open carry, pistol in your vehicle if unloaded and heading to the "outdoors".
I have a CPL but still don't carry just to make things easier, don't even carry loaded pistol in the truck. Just takes the gray area out of the equation if I do get stopped and my pistol is in the truck. Also got it because I get a few jobs in some shady parts of town and was reading about a lot of shootings, still think about it now and then.

Without a cpl, you can legally conceal carry while loaded in your vehicle while heading to the outdoors (because of the exception in the RCW ).

Unless your firearm is locked away in the vehicle,  it must remain on your person if loaded. Even with a conceal carry permit.

[ghosthunter]

Quote from: jmscon on Yesterday at 10:21:29 PM
Concealed  Pistol License (CPL) allows you to carry a loaded pistol concealed under clothing or in a purse. Pretty sure it allows a loaded pistol in your vehicle. No seven day waiting period when purchasing a pistol.
Without a CPL you can open carry, pistol in your vehicle if unloaded and heading to the "outdoors".
I have a CPL but still don't carry just to make things easier, don't even carry loaded pistol in the truck. Just takes the gray area out of the equation if I do get stopped and my pistol is in the truck. Also got it because I get a few jobs in some shady parts of town and was reading about a lot of shootings, still think about it now and then.

Without a cpl, you can legally conceal carry while loaded in your vehicle while heading to the outdoors (because of the exception in the RCW ).

Unless your firearm is locked away in the vehicle,  it must remain on your person if loaded. Even with a conceal carry permit.

This is why folks get confused.
If you have a CPL, your firearm may be any where in your vehicle loaded as long as you are present.
If you leave your car and your gun loaded in your car,the car must be locked and the gun out of veiw from the out side.
As noted in the law below.

2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

The Attorney General of the State of Washington ruled on this several years ago.

i=or ii= or  iii= or

The loaded gun does not have to be on you. If you are in the car.

[jmscon]

Apparently I need to review the laws again.
Something else confusing, isn't having a loaded firearm in your vehicle while hunting illegal? Or is it just a loaded rifle, loaded pistol okay with a CPL?

[ghosthunter]

Apparently I need to review the laws again.
Something else confusing, isn't having a loaded firearm in your vehicle while hunting illegal? Or is it just a loaded rifle, loaded pistol okay with a CPL?

That is a game law.
Which states loaded rifle or shotgun.

I have never had a game agent ask about a loaded pistol.

They don't ask because they are checking your compliance with Game Laws. CPL isn't any part of it because by checking you they are confirming they believe you are involved in Out Door Activity. Which exccempts you from needing a CPL.

Don't confuse Game Laws with Firearm Laws.

[ghosthunter]

Here is a good book by a member of this forum.
The book was printed before 594.

But is a excellent hand guide . I keep it in my truck.

http://danddgunleather.com/pages/washington_gun_rights.htm

[Blacklab]

Ok one more thought without the cpl can u have it loaded when it's in visible sight like if wife went for a jog but I know u can't have it loaded in the rig

Yes it can be loaded when in plain sight attached to your wife. 

You really should get a CPL.....it just makes life easier and takes out all the questions.  You should also probably take a basic pistol class that will answer this and a lot more questions that you are bound to have.

      

[WAnoob]

I wasn't looking to stir up an argument, even though the laws you stated are valid it is much easier to avoid this confusion if you are confronted by an officer that doesn't know all the laws (which happens quite often it seems like).

[CAMPMEAT]

Carry around the Constitution. That's the real law of the land. The 2A.

[nutntoit]

I agree with what others have said. Both you and your wife should obtain your carry permits. It's relatively cheap, easy and eliminates any future problems. After that find her a gun that fits her and works for her needs. Don't just go buy her any small "girly" gun. My wife shoots my Glock 19 better than any other handgun she's tried. Smaller isn't always better. Once you have the permit and the gun SHOOT it and often. Just like anything else practice makes perfect. When it's life or death you want to be as close to perfect as you can. 

[csaaphill]

Carry around the Constitution. That's the real law of the land. The 2A.

+1
 

[SteelheadTed]

The law clearly states..."not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license".

selective quoting?

Quoting, by definition, is selective.

[brush hunter]

If your a lawyer, and have plenty of time to hang out in court (a place where you can't have any firearm) than by all means don't get the CCL. however if your not, it will cost you more than the firearm that your trying to get back is worth. You can interpret the law anyway you want, but in the end the cops don't care and most judges don't either.  Get the CCL's and be done with it.
                                                IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT!

[Curly]

Yep. Or move to a state like Arizona where the gun laws make sense and they don't require a concealed carry license.