Free: Contests & Raffles.
I see this helping the defense in justifying a change of venue as this article and this site paints a picture of "locals" already established as prejudice towards the person facing charges.I'm not supporting him, I'm just stating a possibility. It's painted the picture of guilty before getting a fair trial by a juror of peers.
I see this helping the defense in justifying a change of venue
Really, we're doing this again, a day after the previous lengthy topic was locked? Can't people just be happy for now that the State has filed charges and now let the process work instead of all this needless discussion over a well beaten topic? I hope this thread is locked quickly so it doesn't keep popping up in my "show new replies to your post" page.
Interesting side note here...."Bullwinkle often fed at the home of Mark and Frances Chmelewski, the couple who gave him that name.“He would come into our yard and eat apples off our tree, and we’d sit and watch, just meters from him,” Mark Chmelewski said.“Every year we’d say a little prayer that Bullwinkle would survive the hunting season because he was just such a beautiful, majestic animal.”" and then after googlehttp://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/frances-chmelewski-is-new-kittitas-county-superior-court-judge/article_61b61d0a-162c-11e1-8f9d-001cc4c03286.htmlKarma??
Quote from: JJB11B on May 17, 2016, 09:04:23 PMQuote from: Elkaholic daWg on May 15, 2016, 07:39:43 AMInteresting side note here...."Bullwinkle often fed at the home of Mark and Frances Chmelewski, the couple who gave him that name.“He would come into our yard and eat apples off our tree, and we’d sit and watch, just meters from him,” Mark Chmelewski said.“Every year we’d say a little prayer that Bullwinkle would survive the hunting season because he was just such a beautiful, majestic animal.”" and then after googlehttp://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/frances-chmelewski-is-new-kittitas-county-superior-court-judge/article_61b61d0a-162c-11e1-8f9d-001cc4c03286.htmlKarma??oh snap!Wonder if that actually helps him? Can't the defense petition to bring in an unrelated judge from another county if there is some kind of conflict?
Quote from: Elkaholic daWg on May 15, 2016, 07:39:43 AMInteresting side note here...."Bullwinkle often fed at the home of Mark and Frances Chmelewski, the couple who gave him that name.“He would come into our yard and eat apples off our tree, and we’d sit and watch, just meters from him,” Mark Chmelewski said.“Every year we’d say a little prayer that Bullwinkle would survive the hunting season because he was just such a beautiful, majestic animal.”" and then after googlehttp://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/frances-chmelewski-is-new-kittitas-county-superior-court-judge/article_61b61d0a-162c-11e1-8f9d-001cc4c03286.htmlKarma??oh snap!
I'm not going to comment on the legalities of it because I was not there nor the one that got supposed permission to hunt that area. I do have a problem though with the part about how it's bad to shoot an animal in a field. Zero difference then shooting a cat out of a tree. Neither one takes any skill yet 99% of the people on this site would jump at the chance to shoot a lion in a tree. The first thread on this issue was started because guys were saying it wasn't much of a hunt. Not that it was illegal. Then that started after a page or two. So for the guys that are saying it's not hunting get off your high horse.
Quote from: Branden on May 15, 2016, 10:07:07 AMI'm not going to comment on the legalities of it because I was not there nor the one that got supposed permission to hunt that area. I do have a problem though with the part about how it's bad to shoot an animal in a field. Zero difference then shooting a cat out of a tree. Neither one takes any skill yet 99% of the people on this site would jump at the chance to shoot a lion in a tree. The first thread on this issue was started because guys were saying it wasn't much of a hunt. Not that it was illegal. Then that started after a page or two. So for the guys that are saying it's not hunting get off your high horse. You do a lot of hound hunting Brandon??
Quote from: bobcat on May 15, 2016, 03:07:21 PMWell actually, I have to say, I was glad that someone posted a link to the Yakima Herald article. I may not have seen it otherwise. I probably would have posted it myself if I had come across it first. This is also being discussed on Facebook and I'm sure there are comments being posted in the Yakima Herald as well.thanks for the link to the article. I find it interesting how this one animal and hunter has created such a stir... from a different perspective, this person has probably put into WA state conservation (financially) MORE than this entire site full of hunters combine since just 2007. I don't know him, his ethics, or how rich he is either.. This animal was a conservation tool, used to draw money from us all for a chance of a lifetime, one ticket ever year for me too! Ethics and location maybe not so much. In the end, the money this one hunter has given has most likely made a direct impact in WA and now, the state will waste most of it (i bet) toward litigation and investigation fees. Why not just fix the book to allow this to occur, after all, these raffles and auction tags are just designed to make conservation dollars as I am led to understand in all the writings right? One draw, one animal, one hunter? Is it really that bad that this old rich dude paid to play or are we just jealous and casting stones?Again, just considering the gain from all the moneys invested, not the ethical hunting of one man position. I find it more appalling when a person of this financial affluence takes the route of posting up a 100K piece of property his millionaire buddies to hunt and not giving back, don't you?
Well actually, I have to say, I was glad that someone posted a link to the Yakima Herald article. I may not have seen it otherwise. I probably would have posted it myself if I had come across it first. This is also being discussed on Facebook and I'm sure there are comments being posted in the Yakima Herald as well.
That article doesn't paint a great picture for hunting in general... Not a good deal any way you look at it.
