Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle

[lord grizzly]

no doubt the bull was proccessed off site. i cant count how many animals ive shot,then put in my truck, driven somewhere else and proccesd them. pretty standard practice or do you guys just eat the whole thing right there. the way the story was told/written was this was done in an attemt to decieve. who are you trying to fool when you hang a deer in your garage? slander is slander even if you dont like the guy

[bobcat]

You're the one who used the wording "snuck it to another GMU." It's a fact that it was moved, I don't know that that has any bearing on the case. It was killed illegally, because it was in a closed unit. Simple.

[lord grizzly]

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

[jackelope]

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

[lord grizzly]

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

you really dont want to see what the implied meaning is of this statement in he paper is huh? your not really that naive are you? like i said slander is slander.

[pianoman9701]

no doubt the bull was proccessed off site. i cant count how many animals ive shot,then put in my truck, driven somewhere else and proccesd them. pretty standard practice or do you guys just eat the whole thing right there. the way the story was told/written was this was done in an attemt to decieve. who are you trying to fool when you hang a deer in your garage? slander is slander even if you dont like the guy

I don't really care where he processed the elk, although unless the "private field" where he processed it was his field or that of the guide(s), processing it there is hugely suspect. I would bet that 99.99% of people who don't process their kill right where it lays do it at home or at the home of their hunting partner. But an even more important piece of information is this: What unit did he enter on the required harvest report? if he reported the elk was killed in the 328 unit, then he's tried to hide the fact that he shot it in the 334. This is key to confirming not only that he was misinformed by the WDFW, but that he also didn't try to hide the fact it was shot in 334. Do you know the answer to this question?

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed."

[jackelope]

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

you really dont want to see what the implied meaning is of this statement in he paper is huh? your not really that naive are you? like i said slander is slander.

Well if you think that's slander, I'm not sure what to tell you. Implied or not, the bull was picked up whole, ungutted, and taken to another person's home/shop for processing. That has been established. I'm not sure how putting into type exactly what happened is slanderous.
Maybe it's a conspiracy.

[pianoman9701]

WA doesn't award punitive damages. An award for slander would be granted only for a proven documentable financial loss.

[Curly]

I'm no lawyer but that sure isn't slander in my book.  Like Jackelope said, it seems the news article stated precisely what happened (at least what we've been told happened). 

And it is a point that is worth pointing out; people can draw their own conclusions if they wish based on the facts.  Myself, I don't really find it all that suspect that it was moved.  Based on the pics we've seen of where the bull was, I can understand not wanting to leave a gutpile right there for everyone to see.  

But I can also understand someone drawing the conclusion that maybe they were trying to get away with something because how often do you hear of someone loading a whole ungutted animal up in a truck and gutting it somewhere else?

[jackelope]

WA doesn't award punitive damages. An award for slander would be granted only for a proven documentable financial loss.

Either way, it's not slander.

[kiticaashunter]

I can see trying to defend a friend, or whatever. But come on...from the outside looking in, this does not look like a simple mistake, an oversight, or anything that could  possibly be legitimized with a phone call.

And compared to the several other websites I have seen this issue addressed, the discussion here has been calm and civilized.

What other sites is this being discussed on. I wanna see other train wrecks

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Several pages here:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11165637/Re:_Charges_Filed!!!__-_2015_W


In the comments, if you haven't seen this:
http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/hunter-facing-charges-after-death-of-beloved-elk-named-bullwinkle/article_844ec8ac-1a65-11e6-8639-53981ae0fc80.html

A bit here; nothing new:
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=1243914

Letter to the editor, and comments:
http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/letter-as-a-hunter-disgusted-with-killing-of-bullwinkle/article_af72f16e-1e09-11e6-af5a-134c6e038aed.html

Hard to imagine a 'win', regardless of what the court decides.

The 24hourcampfire thread is hilarious! Started by none other than a JDHasty and he made most of the posts in the 5 page tread. Most of the rest of the posts were people bashing JDHasty. Funny thing about the ifish thread, yep JDHasty is there as well.

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4099641#Post4099641

Here is yet another one all the way across the country in Pennsylvania,  anyone want to make any bets on who started that one? Yet again it was JDHasty........

So after Cboom (who impresses me as none other than kiticaashunter alter ego) stalked me all over this site for the better part of a month....  After I had left the prior thread alone for north of a couple weeks....  After I had been called out for a second time.... you better believe I responded.

Hope you enjoyed it, you have asked for every bit of what I have posted. 

And as for the Pennsylvania sites, I bought a scope form a woodchuck hunter and he invited me to join a site he and other chuck hunters post on.  They pointed me toward the fact that Todd Reichert of Salkum WA has been the primary subject of a heck of a lot of controversy in their State. They invited me over to the other sites they post on.   I bet TR sure wishes you had let sleeping dogs lie.

Sorry to disappoint you but no alter egos here. You sure seem to put yourself out there as a guy that doesn't like to see the rules broken. I have an honest question,  have you ever been sited for breaking any game laws?

Come on jd answer the simple question

[lord grizzly]

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

you really dont want to see what the implied meaning is of this statement in he paper is huh? your not really that naive are you? like i said slander is slander.

Well if you think that's slander, I'm not sure what to tell you. Implied or not, the bull was picked up whole, ungutted, and taken to another person's home/shop for processing. That has been established. I'm not sure how putting into type exactly what happened is slanderous.
Maybe it's a conspiracy.

i guess that answers the second quistion in my sentance there. fair enough

[jackelope]

I can see trying to defend a friend, or whatever. But come on...from the outside looking in, this does not look like a simple mistake, an oversight, or anything that could  possibly be legitimized with a phone call.

And compared to the several other websites I have seen this issue addressed, the discussion here has been calm and civilized.

What other sites is this being discussed on. I wanna see other train wrecks

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Several pages here:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11165637/Re:_Charges_Filed!!!__-_2015_W


In the comments, if you haven't seen this:
http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/hunter-facing-charges-after-death-of-beloved-elk-named-bullwinkle/article_844ec8ac-1a65-11e6-8639-53981ae0fc80.html

A bit here; nothing new:
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=1243914

Letter to the editor, and comments:
http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/letter-as-a-hunter-disgusted-with-killing-of-bullwinkle/article_af72f16e-1e09-11e6-af5a-134c6e038aed.html

Hard to imagine a 'win', regardless of what the court decides.

The 24hourcampfire thread is hilarious! Started by none other than a JDHasty and he made most of the posts in the 5 page tread. Most of the rest of the posts were people bashing JDHasty. Funny thing about the ifish thread, yep JDHasty is there as well.

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4099641#Post4099641

Here is yet another one all the way across the country in Pennsylvania,  anyone want to make any bets on who started that one? Yet again it was JDHasty........

So after Cboom (who impresses me as none other than kiticaashunter alter ego) stalked me all over this site for the better part of a month....  After I had left the prior thread alone for north of a couple weeks....  After I had been called out for a second time.... you better believe I responded.

Hope you enjoyed it, you have asked for every bit of what I have posted. 

And as for the Pennsylvania sites, I bought a scope form a woodchuck hunter and he invited me to join a site he and other chuck hunters post on.  They pointed me toward the fact that Todd Reichert of Salkum WA has been the primary subject of a heck of a lot of controversy in their State. They invited me over to the other sites they post on.   I bet TR sure wishes you had let sleeping dogs lie.

Sorry to disappoint you but no alter egos here. You sure seem to put yourself out there as a guy that doesn't like to see the rules broken. I have an honest question,  have you ever been sited for breaking any game laws?

Come on jd answer the simple question

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

you really dont want to see what the implied meaning is of this statement in he paper is huh? your not really that naive are you? like i said slander is slander.

Well if you think that's slander, I'm not sure what to tell you. Implied or not, the bull was picked up whole, ungutted, and taken to another person's home/shop for processing. That has been established. I'm not sure how putting into type exactly what happened is slanderous.
Maybe it's a conspiracy.

i guess that answers the second quistion in my sentance there. fair enough

[pianoman9701]

So then, no answer for which unit was used on the harvest report?

[kiticaashunter]

I can see trying to defend a friend, or whatever. But come on...from the outside looking in, this does not look like a simple mistake, an oversight, or anything that could  possibly be legitimized with a phone call.

And compared to the several other websites I have seen this issue addressed, the discussion here has been calm and civilized.

What other sites is this being discussed on. I wanna see other train wrecks

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Several pages here:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11165637/Re:_Charges_Filed!!!__-_2015_W


In the comments, if you haven't seen this:
http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/hunter-facing-charges-after-death-of-beloved-elk-named-bullwinkle/article_844ec8ac-1a65-11e6-8639-53981ae0fc80.html

A bit here; nothing new:
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=1243914

Letter to the editor, and comments:
http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/letter-as-a-hunter-disgusted-with-killing-of-bullwinkle/article_af72f16e-1e09-11e6-af5a-134c6e038aed.html

Hard to imagine a 'win', regardless of what the court decides.

The 24hourcampfire thread is hilarious! Started by none other than a JDHasty and he made most of the posts in the 5 page tread. Most of the rest of the posts were people bashing JDHasty. Funny thing about the ifish thread, yep JDHasty is there as well.

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4099641#Post4099641

Here is yet another one all the way across the country in Pennsylvania,  anyone want to make any bets on who started that one? Yet again it was JDHasty........

So after Cboom (who impresses me as none other than kiticaashunter alter ego) stalked me all over this site for the better part of a month....  After I had left the prior thread alone for north of a couple weeks....  After I had been called out for a second time.... you better believe I responded.

Hope you enjoyed it, you have asked for every bit of what I have posted. 

And as for the Pennsylvania sites, I bought a scope form a woodchuck hunter and he invited me to join a site he and other chuck hunters post on.  They pointed me toward the fact that Todd Reichert of Salkum WA has been the primary subject of a heck of a lot of controversy in their State. They invited me over to the other sites they post on.   I bet TR sure wishes you had let sleeping dogs lie.

Sorry to disappoint you but no alter egos here. You sure seem to put yourself out there as a guy that doesn't like to see the rules broken. I have an honest question,  have you ever been sited for breaking any game laws?

Come on jd answer the simple question

from the Yakima herald. and then blasted on the first half of this thread. i guess it doesnt say "snuck" your right. no implied meaning here, transporting game to another location to proccess it isnt standard practice for every hunter ever...

"After shooting the elk, Reichert and a small group of Ellensburg residents who had helped him locate the bull loaded it into a truck. According to eyewitnesses, the elk was then driven to a private field in the 328 unit and field-dressed"

That is exactly what happened, pretty much to the letter.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you implying that's not what happened?
For the record, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them doing this. The farmer probably didn't want a gutpile in the middle of his field.

you really dont want to see what the implied meaning is of this statement in he paper is huh? your not really that naive are you? like i said slander is slander.

Well if you think that's slander, I'm not sure what to tell you. Implied or not, the bull was picked up whole, ungutted, and taken to another person's home/shop for processing. That has been established. I'm not sure how putting into type exactly what happened is slanderous.
Maybe it's a conspiracy.

i guess that answers the second quistion in my sentance there. fair enough

Something funny? Do you have more details on JDHastys poaching?