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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1275 on: June 22, 2016, 10:22:55 AM »
My gut still tells me that he wil be found not guilty.

Why else would he reject the pleas, unless he thinks he can win?
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1276 on: June 22, 2016, 10:25:21 AM »
He may reject them, draw it out some, in hopes of the plea deal getting sweeter....
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1277 on: June 22, 2016, 10:30:27 AM »
I think a jury trial could likely go either way.  If a jury hears that wdfw employees gave the okay, then they are likely to side with the defendant.  He's got a lot of money invested in tags this year and probably not many years of hunting left in him, so that is probably why he doesn't take a deal. 

He just had to drag it out until after September, but now that the judge is saying no more hunting I wonder what he will do?  I would think he can still hunt his out-of-state hunts until after it goes to court though, so maybe he will still drag it out until he can hunt the out-of-state tags he has.  :dunno:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1278 on: June 22, 2016, 10:37:40 AM »
The offer was one year off of hunting, a fine and some community service, if it goes to trial I don't see him even getting that so it is worth the gamble I would think.  I think the trial is set for August so he could have an answer either way before the hunts can start in September.  I think odds are good one way or another we will have a final outcome by September or sooner.  Then we can talk about that for a few days until something new pops up and takes our attention.  Squirrel!
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1279 on: June 22, 2016, 11:04:44 AM »
I think he will get off with little effects to him.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1280 on: June 22, 2016, 11:19:06 AM »
I think a jury trial could likely go either way.  If a jury hears that wdfw employees gave the okay, then they are likely to side with the defendant.  He's got a lot of money invested in tags this year and probably not many years of hunting left in him, so that is probably why he doesn't take a deal. 

He just had to drag it out until after September, but now that the judge is saying no more hunting I wonder what he will do?  I would think he can still hunt his out-of-state hunts until after it goes to court though, so maybe he will still drag it out until he can hunt the out-of-state tags he has.  :dunno:

 I heard that it was reported this morning that WDFW denies having given him permission to kill that bull.

 Hmmmm!
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1282 on: June 22, 2016, 12:24:27 PM »
I wonder if TR sues the guy in his party that gave him the go ahead.


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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1283 on: June 22, 2016, 12:41:58 PM »
Remember calling fish and game to get clarification on a grey area and I thought I remember my call being recorded  :dunno:



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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1284 on: June 22, 2016, 12:45:28 PM »
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Reichert's attorney insisted that a hunting partner of Reichert's obtained permission for them to hunt Bullwinkle from state wildlife officials.

 That could set a troublesome precedent if allowed to get him off. :twocents:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1285 on: June 22, 2016, 12:53:31 PM »
Remember calling fish and game to get clarification on a grey area and I thought I remember my call being recorded  :dunno:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1286 on: June 22, 2016, 12:54:52 PM »
If the “friend” were someone in the business of guiding and outfitting, then perhaps a judge could be convinced that a reasonable person would be justified in believing his advice about the legality of the hunt. However, if the “friend” is nothing more than an acquaintance who doesn’t guide for a living then I believe a hunter should clearly do his own research on what is, and what is not legal.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1287 on: June 22, 2016, 01:07:55 PM »
I wonder if a finder's fee was paid out for finding Bullwinkle?  And if it was, I would think it should be returned since it was an illegal kill. :twocents:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1288 on: June 22, 2016, 01:26:14 PM »
If the “friend” were someone in the business of guiding and outfitting, then perhaps a judge could be convinced that a reasonable person would be justified in believing his advice about the legality of the hunt. However, if the “friend” is nothing more than an acquaintance who doesn’t guide for a living then I believe a hunter should clearly do his own research on what is, and what is not legal.

Neither scenario holds up in this case! A life long Washington hunter himself he can't play dumb. If he were hunting somewhere new for first time I might buy believing the professional guide... But still at some point personal responsibility must come into account, to little of that is what's ruining a once great country :twocents:

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1289 on: June 22, 2016, 01:35:10 PM »
Sounds like he's screwed.


He broke the law, killed a bull in an area he wasn't allowed to.

His defense that someone told him it was ok isn't flying.....and the defenders on this site have gone quiet.   :tup:
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