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Offline Adam Williamsen

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2016, 02:26:04 PM »
your right deer hunter. i went to Idaho last year and spent $750 for every thing that's total out the door price. plus there is a chance to kill a monster animal.
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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2016, 02:40:35 PM »
We just put in for 6 antelope tags in WY for $612, me and my daughter including points.  Chances look good, knocking on wood, to draw all 6.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2016, 02:52:49 PM »
nice i love wy. i killed a 5x4 elk there a couple years ago. that drive is a killer. now its so expensive to hunt my home town i can only go out of state every other year.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2016, 03:29:50 PM »
I was not aware that the timber companies were getting a tax break.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2016, 01:26:40 PM »
I agree about the crowds.  I called WDFW about the loss of fishing opportunities every year, and the guys told me "In 1970 there was 2 million people living in Washington, now there are almost 8 million."  I guess he has a point.  Fishing and hunting is overcrowded here and its going to get worse with population growth.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2016, 03:06:03 PM »
It's getting crowded every where and out of state does not make it cheaper. There is huge hunting industry growth as well (Mtn Ops, Under Armour, etc.) blowing up our sport. I am hunting more than ever including two out of state hunts this year and I am increasing my hunting budget as much as possible for the coming years. The justification for spending money on hunting and fishing is having a freezer full of organic deer, elk and salmon. Making this pursuit to me and my family worth every penny. 

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2016, 05:03:15 PM »
I am slowly migrating away from hunting deer and elk in Washington. Once I burn my points for quality in both categories, I will be done. My only wa hunting will be waterfowl and I will continue to put in for OIL tags just for the heck of it. I have been building points in other states as well as taking advantage of their otc tags. I rarely dine out, I don't buy coffee and I make all my meals for work. My vacation and extra cash goes for out of state hunts. It's not all about going to other states with the goal of killing the biggest animals but more so the adventure and experiencing different areas. Half the fun of the hunt is all the research and planning that goes into it.

For me, it's not just the money spent here but the small things other states do that make me more wiling to shell out my hard earned money. Something as small as a phone call from Montana every spring asking how my hunt went, how we did and a friendly invitation to come back again means a lot. Shows me they appreciate hunters and their money. Sad that my home state just doesn't feel like they give a darn. It just feels more like a "thanks for your cash" approach.
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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2016, 10:54:21 PM »
I never knew Montana called people to get a report, they're a totally different kind of people over there. Very nice!

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2016, 11:00:48 PM »
Well........I guess we can all be glad that we weren't born in Europe.  You know all those folks over there have cheap otc tags, lots of guns and ammo, and millions of acres of public land right out their back door to hunt and recreate on!

Seriously though, yeah prices go up, policies change, but I'm bringing up two boys who are both hunting now with three more young ones on their heels and we are having a ball out there!  There is a lot to complain about in this world but isn't it nice to grab an otc  deer or elk tag, climb up on a high ridge (on land owned by you and I) and watch the sun come up?  I don't know about you but that makes me feel like I'm really living 👍🏼  :twocents:

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2016, 05:39:22 AM »
What are you doing to get a call from Montana. Not saying it doesn't happen but I haven't seen or heard of it.
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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2016, 07:25:48 AM »
I spend a fortune on hunting and it peeves me off bad to have to pay for land access to land that the public should have access to anyways cause it was taxes that paid for the logging roads. It's not the cost it's the wAy a local company is exploiting local communities. 
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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2016, 06:32:51 AM »
Money spent hunting whether it's paying to hunt timber controlled land, gated public land, fuel, gear, tents, power bill, and all the rest it is well worth it.  There is lot's of public land in this state and our choice to be a hunter comes at a expense.  Do I like the access fee to public land NO.  For those that choice not to hunt here and go out of state I honor your choice but I'm having a little trouble with the math since the complaint seems to be the access fee.  If we didn't have JACK WAGONS in the woods tearing up meadows with there motorized rigs, shooting holes in equipment, leaving trash, vandalized signs and structures, that are meant for everybody maybe we wouldn't have such fee's and gate's into public land.  Ass, gas or grass nobody ride's, (or access) for free.  No matter where you go in 2016 hunting good luck to you all.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2016, 07:50:45 AM »
It is what you make it.  A guy could buy his big game combo for under $100 and hunt all year.   The special permits aren't a requirement to hunt, nor are the access permits.  They are luxuries and should be treated as such.  Its not like the new license season sneaks up on you, you have a whole year to save up for it.  Ill be into it for around $650 after the access permit and, to me,  that's a bargain for a years worth of entertainment!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2016, 08:01:49 AM »
It is what you make it.  A guy could buy his big game combo for under $100 and hunt all year.   The special permits aren't a requirement to hunt, nor are the access permits.  They are luxuries and should be treated as such.  Its not like the new license season sneaks up on you, you have a whole year to save up for it.  Ill be into it for around $650 after the access permit and, to me,  that's a bargain for a years worth of entertainment!

What about the generations of wholesome family tradition and values that having that land public provided to these rural communities...  The pass I buy sells 800 in less than 90 seconds.  Even if my family wanted to buy it (they refuse cause they paid the taxes for those roads and agreed to do so for access to the tree farms) they couldn't.  You guys act like they have a choice. Most all timber companies have gone to permit only. Very small chunks of state land to hunt that hold game.  It was a greedy thing to do and will cost them and the wdfw in the end. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Re: what a ripoff
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2016, 08:35:08 AM »
It is what you make it.  A guy could buy his big game combo for under $100 and hunt all year.   The special permits aren't a requirement to hunt, nor are the access permits.  They are luxuries and should be treated as such.  Its not like the new license season sneaks up on you, you have a whole year to save up for it.  Ill be into it for around $650 after the access permit and, to me,  that's a bargain for a years worth of entertainment!

What about the generations of wholesome family tradition and values that having that land public provided to these rural communities...  The pass I buy sells 800 in less than 90 seconds.  Even if my family wanted to buy it (they refuse cause they paid the taxes for those roads and agreed to do so for access to the tree farms) they couldn't.  You guys act like they have a choice. Most all timber companies have gone to permit only. Very small chunks of state land to hunt that hold game.  It was a greedy thing to do and will cost them and the wdfw in the end. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I completely understand this point. However, the only main complaint we ever seem to hear about is cost and the timber companies receiving tax breaks. And when you say they couldn't buy a permit even if they wanted to, do you mean they cant afford it or the permits sell out to quickly? I buy the same permit by the way.

 


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