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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2016, 10:13:03 AM »
Buy the truck and then put $5k under your mattress and save it for when the headgaskets blow and or the EGR cooler cracks/leaks. Then buy the Billetproof diesel stuff, have it installed and never look back.
That or buy a mid 2000's Duramax and drive it and never look back.

Because they don't eat turbo's, have mechanical water pumps which take poops and have injector replacement bills of around $5K...lol..
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2016, 10:23:15 AM »
we run about 20 HD pickups in our fleet. Had 6.0's. Lasted about 150,000 before they dropped like flies. Bought Duramax's. The 2004-pre- DEF trucks are rock solid for the most part. Some electrical issues with transmissions but, nothing major.

Then comes the Chev's with DEF... Every one of them has been in the shop multiple times with issues. One they couldn't figure out the problem after bringing in a head Chevy tech from the Eastcoast so, they gave us a new GMC Dually Gasser.

So, we're back to Fords again trying a mix of gas power and diesel. Gas trucks do pretty good. Maintenance cost is way lower and we can buy three for the price of two diesels.

6L powerstrokes are junk. no way around it. They last about as long as a new DEF sucking Chevy... 125-150K mile engines.
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2016, 10:31:49 AM »
I own a 2002 7.3L with 210K, 2003 Chevy Duramax with 260K and a 2005 Chevy Duramax w/CPU, intake and exhaust with 90K... (Chevy's are my soon to be wifes trucks  :chuckle:)

Drive a 2006 Yota work truck 190k
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2016, 10:49:00 AM »
I've only had mine a couple weeks but it was back at the dealers shop with the DEF issues and they made it good with all the new upgrades, took a week to do it. I guess that was a problem with the 2011. I was gonna do the DEF delete but now they would like for me to wait a couple years and see how the upgrades do. A good DEF delete would run around $4-5k so I think I'll wait. The dealer has a 9 month/9,000 mile warranty and I bought the extended warranty. Keeping my fingers crossed since this is my first diesel.

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2016, 10:51:53 AM »
So much good and bad info on here...

The good info:  6.0 have known weaknesses, and are fixable for an investment that should be reflected in the lower cost of the truck vs. 2005 Duramax.  The trucks themselves are very good.

The bad info:  any blanket statement that 6.0's are junk.  A cared for, upgraded and properly maintained 6.0 is a great engine with plenty of power and reliability. 

I bought my 2006 new, learned about the issues and what to keep an eye on, did the fixes when the time was right (cost me under $2k in parts and some shop labor). As a result, I am a happy Ford 6.0 owner who gets a chuckle at the expense of the folks who are scared of a little extra work to fix the EGR/oil cooling system that Ford didn't get right.

All that said - an improperly cared for 6.0 is going to be a headache.  They don't like dirty oil at all and the expensive injectors that give this small v8 such great performance & mileage suffer if the previous owner didnt change oil on schedule.  Do the research on the maintenance history, check the Engine Oil Temp against the Engine Coolant Temp (known as the EOT/EGT delta) and pm or call me with any Q's.  If you end up buying it, I'll come up and show you how to do the few little annual maintenance things that most people don't, resulting in this DEF-free engine getting an unnecessarily bad reputation.

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2016, 10:54:32 AM »
I have an 07 6.0
I haul a 8800 lb dry bumper mount RV trailer or switch out to a 8.5ft camper from time to time, or boat etc
Love it
Yea I had to do a few things, I sure work more on the wifes Denali than my Ford.
I did the studs on the heads and rebuilt the Turbo, EGR delete kit, SVT tuner, leveling kit with 20 inch BFGs and airbags, not much else besides brakes or oil changes/fuel filter
Bought it brand new for 36K
10 years later and I have a few guys that would love to get it for 20K every-time I mention selling it the RV and the camper and downsizing to Class B motor home
I can launch my boat with my Toyota Tacoma, its my run around rig.
If you get one have it looked at and buy it  if its a good deal,dont let the Dodge boys and Duramax guys scare you off it.
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2016, 11:01:17 AM »
Ya that!  A low milage motor is way different than one above 100k. I have a 6 liter with great records and 210k on it. Thinking I could just rearing and roll lower bearings in it it was shot. So much wrist pin slop It tells me it had been run without pumping through the filter for some time. Additionally the turbos often cropped out because the oil to lubricate them was already too hot.

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2016, 11:11:19 AM »
Buy the truck and then put $5k under your mattress and save it for when the headgaskets blow and or the EGR cooler cracks/leaks. Then buy the Billetproof diesel stuff, have it installed and never look back.
That or buy a mid 2000's Duramax and drive it and never look back.

Because they don't eat turbo's, have mechanical water pumps which take poops and have injector replacement bills of around $5K...lol..

we run about 20 HD pickups in our fleet. Had 6.0's. Lasted about 150,000 before they dropped like flies. Bought Duramax's. The 2004-pre- DEF trucks are rock solid for the most part. Some electrical issues with transmissions but, nothing major.

Then comes the Chev's with DEF... Every one of them has been in the shop multiple times with issues. One they couldn't figure out the problem after bringing in a head Chevy tech from the Eastcoast so, they gave us a new GMC Dually Gasser.

So, we're back to Fords again trying a mix of gas power and diesel. Gas trucks do pretty good. Maintenance cost is way lower and we can buy three for the price of two diesels.

6L powerstrokes are junk. no way around it. They last about as long as a new DEF sucking Chevy... 125-150K mile engines.

Mid 2000's Duramax trucks have always been really good.  They don't use DEF.  The first DEF trucks for GM were 2011.

DPF emissions is when all the problems started with the big 3. Around mid model year 2007-2008.

The first DEF trucks for Ford were 2011 also when the 6.7 came out. The 6.7 Powerstrokes are better than the 6.0 and 6.4's. We do replace EGR coolers in them now and then, but they are easier and not "as" expensive. The cab doesn't have to come off. Dodge's lighter trucks were able to meet emissions requirements for a few more years before they had to go to the DEF system...maybe 2013 on their 2500 and 3500 trucks. The bigger trucks, cab/chassis, 4500, 5500 started in 2011 also.

DEF= Diesel exhaust fluid(urea based fluid you have to keep filled)
DPF=Diesel particulate filter(exhaust component)
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2016, 12:18:17 PM »
Nice truck madmax  :tup: I have the supercab/longed fx4 too.
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2016, 12:31:59 PM »
I do like the truck part myself. But after thinking about having to fix these issues I'd hope you could get the truck for about FREE. If its going to be a pavement pounder and you stop like at WallMart to get the thing turned around you'll do just fine. Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig around! :chuckle:  I really think you should really look at other rigs.  But it is a real nice looking rig.
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2016, 12:56:51 PM »
You cant even imagine the places I've turned that around, now pulling the trailer yea, little more of a challenge
Taking it to scout this Thurs-weekend for SIL observatory tag archery bull, somewhere between BBQ flats and Quartz
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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2016, 01:05:30 PM »
Check out the Fords on CL in Kitsap. There's a really nice one on page 4 I think it is. In Port Orchard, 2006 has 18k miles and I believe he has the extended warranty too. $24k

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2016, 02:00:17 PM »
Anyone experience with the mid 2000's 6.0 liter from Ford.  Was looking at an 05 with low miles but sounds like a lot of people shy away from that motor.
Never buy a 6.0

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2016, 02:18:54 PM »
Anyone experience with the mid 2000's 6.0 liter from Ford.  Was looking at an 05 with low miles but sounds like a lot of people shy away from that motor.
Never buy a 6.0

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Re: Ford 6.0 liter turbo diesel engine?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2016, 05:40:11 PM »
If you factor in the money for the inevitable issues they can be great motors after all the upgrades and fixes to the design
If that is you're willing to deal with the work or have the wallet
( head gaskets, oil cooler, egr delete, icp ,ipr, bad injectors, glow plug harnesses )

 


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