6.5 Creedmoor or not?

[Tyler_C]

I hunt mule deer on the east side of the state, and my shots have ranged from 50 to 350 yards. I currently use a .270 win. Would I benefit at all to switch to the 6.5 Creedmoor? I'm new to this cartridge, so I'm needing input. also, what are the best hunting rounds for the CM? I don't reload, either.

Thank you.

[headshot5]

I hunt mule deer on the east side of the state, and my shots have ranged from 50 to 350 yards. I currently use a .270 win. Would I benefit at all to switch to the 6.5 Creedmoor? I'm new to this cartridge, so I'm needing input. also, what are the best hunting rounds for the CM? I don't reload, either.

I'd roll with the .270 if that's what you have already.  No need for anything else for deer between 50 and 350.   

[BULLBLASTER]

I hunt mule deer on the east side of the state, and my shots have ranged from 50 to 350 yards. I currently use a .270 win. Would I benefit at all to switch to the 6.5 Creedmoor? I'm new to this cartridge, so I'm needing input. also, what are the best hunting rounds for the CM? I don't reload, either.

I'd roll with the .270 if that's what you have already.  No need for anything else for deer between 50 and 350.   

the cm won't do anything your 270 can do. Unless you just want another gun. 

[Karl Blanchard]

I hunt mule deer on the east side of the state, and my shots have ranged from 50 to 350 yards. I currently use a .270 win. Would I benefit at all to switch to the 6.5 Creedmoor? I'm new to this cartridge, so I'm needing input. also, what are the best hunting rounds for the CM? I don't reload, either.

I'd roll with the .270 if that's what you have already.  No need for anything else for deer between 50 and 350.   

the cm won't do anything your 270 can do. Unless you just want another gun. 

    wait a minute!  This is a lie!  The .270 is grossly inadequate and you need to buy a 6.5 CM as soon as possible!  At least that's what you need to tell your wife

[Tyler_C]

Which is better for elk?

[BULLBLASTER]

I hunt mule deer on the east side of the state, and my shots have ranged from 50 to 350 yards. I currently use a .270 win. Would I benefit at all to switch to the 6.5 Creedmoor? I'm new to this cartridge, so I'm needing input. also, what are the best hunting rounds for the CM? I don't reload, either.

I'd roll with the .270 if that's what you have already.  No need for anything else for deer between 50 and 350.   

the cm won't do anything your 270 can do. Unless you just want another gun. 

    wait a minute!  This is a lie!  The .270 is grossly inadequate and you need to buy a 6.5 CM as soon as possible!  At least that's what you need to tell your wife

how could I be so wrong!?   

[jrebel]

Ballistically they are very similar.....  Both will push a 130 to 150 grain bullet at roughly 2800 fps.  So to answer you question.....both are superier for elk.  140 grain bonded bullet out of the creedmoor will kill elk dead.  150 grain partition out of the 270 will kill elk just as dead. 

I say you buy a 6.5 and report back with success pics.   

[Wingin it]

You absolutely must have the CM! I have absolutely no Concrete data to offer but hey another gun is always a good thing!

[crabcreekhunter]

Stick with .270 a bonded 130 grain bullet at 3200 fps will knock whatever deer or elk you want down at that range no problem.. and can shoot plenty well out to a grand. Save some money buy some more ammo and have fun

[jrebel]

Stick with .270 a bonded 130 grain bullet at 3200 fps will knock whatever deer or elk you want down at that range no problem.. and can shoot plenty well out to a grand. Save some money buy some more ammo and have fun

Are you hand loading to get those speeds?  If so do you mind sharing your load, bullet, powder, etc.  I have yet to find a .270 that will stabilize at the upper ends and have been trying for years.  I would love to know the magic recipe. 

Thanks

[crabcreekhunter]

The actual load data is at the reloading room in Moses  and don't remember quite off the top of my head but using a 130 Berger classic hunter not a bonded bullet but very deadly,  and vihtavuori n560 pretty stiff, shaken not stirred, I'd recommend working up to your max pressure in your rifle of course.. two of our .270s it won't work with now from throat erosion.  Berger are finicky in all rifles I load for but once dialed are pretty sweet and classic hunters are a lot better in seating depth forgiveness than the vlds.  Hope that helps, in 24 and 26 inch tubes.. also have shot the Sierra game kings for years with good results but lower velo.

[huntnphool]

Stick with .270 a bonded 130 grain bullet at 3200 fps will knock whatever deer or elk you want down at that range no problem.. and can shoot plenty well out to a grand. Save some money buy some more ammo and have fun

 +1, 130 Partition will do just fine too.

[Caseknife]

The .270 will do everything the 6.5 CM will do, but if you feel you need another rifle, the 6.5CM will do everything the .270 will do.  I used my 6.5 CM loaded with 127gr Barnes LRX to harvest my elk last year with no ill effects, other than the elk's.

[Karl Blanchard]

Some of you aren't very good at this whole peer pressure thing   Trust me man, you really need a 6.5!  .270 just won't cut it anymore

[Tyler_C]

I know, I know. Just didn't know if the CM was better ballistically. Could always use another gun. Any other cartidges that are superior?

[bobcat]

Yeah, the 26 Nosler:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/26Nosler.htm

[jrebel]

Isn't the new one a 6.5 x 300?  My guess is that would be superior if you are looking at muzzle velocities. 

[Tyler_C]

Is the 300 win mag too big for what I'm needing?

[Dan-o]

Is the 300 win mag too big for what I'm needing?

No, it's not too big.

It is a great elk cartridge.

Personally, if I had a 270 already, I'd pick something significantly different  ballistically speaking (i.e. not a 6.5 Creed).

A 300 Win Mag fits the bill.

And since you don't reload, it comes in tons of factory loads (unlike the Creedmoor).

[JoeE]

Is the 300 win mag too big for what I'm needing?

No, it's not too big.

It is a great elk cartridge.

Personally, if I had a 270 already, I'd pick something significantly different  ballistically speaking (i.e. not a 6.5 Creed).

A 300 Win Mag fits the bill.

And since you don't reload, it comes in tons of factory loads (unlike the Creedmoor).

+1 stick with the 270 or jump up to a 300wm

[Karl Blanchard]

In all seriousness, 400 and in, most all calibers are too close to make any difference.  Even the 300 winny.  All will put the smack down on even a big bull elk.

[longrange7mm]

If your happy with that 270 and it shoots good invest in optics and look at loading some of the new 170 gr elite hunters from berger "only if your lucky and have a 1:8 twist or faster though" You most likely have a 1:10 and the 140 gr vlds shoot really good out of most factory rifles I have been around.. Im going back and forth on building a wild cat just to shoot these heavy little copper coated killing pills!  But if you want a new gun and are wanting a creed I SUPPORT YOUR DECISION!!!

[Taco280AI]

Save or spend your money on something else. In the field there's no difference.

[NWShooter]

Stick with .270 a bonded 130 grain bullet at 3200 fps will knock whatever deer or elk you want down at that range no problem.. and can shoot plenty well out to a grand. Save some money buy some more ammo and have fun

 +1, 130 Partition will do just fine too.

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a excellent cartridge. Take a look at the factory Hornady offerings with the ELD-X.  At the ranges you described it will do it just as clean with less fuss than the averaged .270 Win. Hell the 7x57 is a better suited to the ranges you described than the .270 Win. Better yet you don't have to deal with the slips on their knees in love with the 7mm-08 slug.

[NWShooter]

Yeah, the 26 Nosler:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/26Nosler.htm

Pick one of those up. I'll lone you my magneto speed and let me know the real world speeds because I already know them.

[Tyler_C]

Though nice, the 26 Nosler rifles are a bit more than I want to pay... the .264 bullets are interesting to me... very good BC and SD.

[mountainman]

Stick with .270 a bonded 130 grain bullet at 3200 fps will knock whatever deer or elk you want down at that range no problem.. and can shoot plenty well out to a grand. Save some money buy some more ammo and have fun

 +1, 130 Partition will do just fine too.

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a excellent cartridge. Take a look at the factory Hornady offerings with the ELD-X.  At the ranges you described it will do it just as clean with less fuss than the averaged .270 Win. Hell the 7x57 is a better suited to the ranges you described than the .270 Win. Better yet you don't have to deal with the slips on their knees in love with the 7mm-08 slug.

Mrs. O'Connor thought so, eh NWshooter?

[Buzz2401]

Shooting under 500 yards you will only lose speed and energy going with the creedmoor.  The only advantage it has is available higher B.C. bullets which isn't gonna make much difference at the range you stated.  The Creedmoor is gonna leave about 200fps slower then the 270 and it isn't gonna catch up till about 400-500 yards but after that the 270 is gonna lose.  Thats using the same weight bullet but with a better BC on the 6.5.  I'd spend the money on some better glass or some other new gear ya may need. 

[kball4]

7mm rem mag is a good round for anything you can shoot in Washington.  I shoot Hornady 162gr SST 3000fps at the barrel.

[Sakko300wsm]

300wsm is an awesome set up hands down!

[mountainman]

Save or spend your money on something else. In the field there's no difference.

agree👆 put the money into optics and ammo! Won't save you anything over the .270. Unless you want the Creedmor "just because? That's good enough for me👍