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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2016, 06:18:55 AM »
The problem can be fixed in one word. QUOTA.  Set a number of mature bulls to be harvested in each area, boom done.  Also get rid of half the GMU's, and break the state into regions or just much larger GMU's. 

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2016, 06:35:22 AM »
That quota would be reached before September in a few areas

Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2016, 06:58:04 AM »
How about we turn this conversation in to a positive one and discuss techniques to kill a mystical magical Spike elk!!!!!  Would you assume most spike will behave like a satellite bull? I have seen them walking right with a 6x6 and they acted like best friends.

Were you in Montana or Idaho?  :chuckle:

Actually this is something I have been thinking about, hunting outside WA to increase my odds.

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2016, 07:04:31 AM »
How about we turn this conversation in to a positive one and discuss techniques to kill a mystical magical Spike elk!!!!!  Would you assume most spike will behave like a satellite bull? I have seen them walking right with a 6x6 and they acted like best friends.

Were you in Montana or Idaho?  :chuckle:

Actually this is something I have been thinking about, hunting outside WA to increase my odds.

I have found, at least during early archery season, spikes tend to hang out and almost hide amongst groups of cows. I think they are often like early 20 somethings still living at home with their parents  :chuckle:
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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2016, 07:21:49 AM »
How about we turn this conversation in to a positive one and discuss techniques to kill a mystical magical Spike elk!!!!!  Would you assume most spike will behave like a satellite bull? I have seen them walking right with a 6x6 and they acted like best friends.

Were you in Montana or Idaho?  :chuckle:

Actually this is something I have been thinking about, hunting outside WA to increase my odds.

I have found, at least during early archery season, spikes tend to hang out and almost hide amongst groups of cows. I think they are often like early 20 somethings still living at home with their parents  :chuckle:

Yeah, that's how I've seen them as well during modern. Never seen one with other bulls only cows.

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2016, 01:10:47 PM »
Opportunity does not equal armed hiking...it means a chance at success


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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2016, 01:14:47 PM »
Opportunity does not equal armed hiking...it means a chance at success

Then you're using a different definition of opportunity than the WDFW does.

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2016, 01:15:26 PM »
The only reason it's spike only and not branch antlered bull is because they are taking us over the coals in costs to apply...plain and simple. It's a joke and we're all buying in


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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2016, 01:16:45 PM »
Hiw does the state make more $ shooting spikes?

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2016, 01:19:09 PM »
It's called tickets and sales of special permits points


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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2016, 01:19:54 PM »
All you have to do is take a look at revenue stream...past and present


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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2016, 01:33:48 PM »
How does the gmu being spike make more $ if it was brance bull restriction?

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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2016, 01:39:57 PM »
Our states management system is a joke and a system to make money. It is not set up for opportunity, it is set up for trophy hunting. I would much rather have opportunity than trophy quality. That is why I hunt Idaho and northeast Washington even though I watch some of the biggest elk herds in the state from my yard. It's a joke of a state. I have drawn one branch antler permit in this state. Then I decided to really take a look at the actual prospects of drawing tags here...it's really pretty tough.


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Who should snap their fingers and fix the problem? There so many factors: lots of hunters and OTC tags, tribal hunting and rights, poor predator management.

The third could be an easy fix, but hell they wont even let us take 2 bears in eastern wa, and were crawling with them.

I too would like to know the reasoning behind a one bear limit in E WA.  It would seem like a non-factor given the current harvest levels.
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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2016, 01:43:12 PM »
Scoutdog...if the units were branch antlered instead of spike only, people wouldn't spend the money in points for the permit system because they would get to hunt branch antlered Bulls over the counter


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Re: Spike only units
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2016, 01:44:12 PM »
Bobcat...you're right. I do have a different definition than the state does and my definition is better. Just hunt Idaho and see how it is supposed to be done


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