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Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« on: September 14, 2016, 06:20:40 PM »
Several months back we lost an uncle in my family. His wife is getting to the point where she is looking to offload some of his guns. She spoke with her lawyer who advised her to use an FFL which is obviously safe law advice considering 594. I have been told that transfers don't need FFl if it is in the family all the way to first cousin. Could I theoretically have her pass it to my father who then passes it to me? Or have her pass it to her daughter who is my first cousin? Or do I need to use FFL in this case.

The only shop I spoke with charges $100 per gun, the amount of guns in this collection is a significant amount. I would be buying 3-5 so it could get very costly to do these transfers. Not to mention having to haul my aunt to whatever gun shop to do all this paperwork. Any advice on these matters appreciated

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 06:25:17 PM »
$100 per?!? I'd shop around, maybe you can get a package deal... I  personally wouldn't skirt around it with multiple 'legal' transfers.

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 06:38:35 PM »
Serial exempt transfers are also exempt (e.g., brother to brother then father to son). Nephews are also covered.

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(4) This section does not apply to:
(a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift;

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.113

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 06:42:53 PM »
I say do what you can legally to obtain these guns without the ridiculous i594 paperwork, especially at $100 each!  That is outright robbery!  My guess is most of these guns preempt i594 so I would do what I could to keep That information out of the hands of politicians.

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 06:43:59 PM »
And off the internet.

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 07:23:57 PM »
Serial exempt transfers are also exempt (e.g., brother to brother then father to son). Nephews are also covered.

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(4) This section does not apply to:
(a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift;

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.113

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If you decide that you need to go through an FFL, you can find them for $25 just about everywhere - and get a volume discount if it's more than 1-2 guns.
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 07:32:25 PM »
100 is way to much. 25-35 is about right. I only charge 25.00

I am no lawyer, so this is just my thoughts on the laws. The exemption listed above is from gifting "bona fide gift". If you are BUYING them, I would for sure go with a ffl transfer as it is a purchase.
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 07:42:52 PM »
Or you can make an unrelated gift of cash or property.

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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 08:04:54 PM »
Just say it was gifted, screw the law!
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 08:07:37 PM »
Thanks for the info
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 05:23:39 AM »
BTW anyone know of any of these FFL dealers in the Seattle area? I found one that charges 35 but they are a bit out of town
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 05:40:01 AM »
That's the problem: Seattle

Most shops will charge more.   You need to find an independent FFL.  I recall one of the gun auction sites has a search feature. That's how I found my guy in Machias, $25 each.  :twocents:
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 07:40:36 AM »
BTW anyone know of any of these FFL dealers in the Seattle area? I found one that charges 35 but they are a bit out of town
You might check with Outdoor Emporium. They had reasonable fees when 594 was first enacted.
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 07:52:27 AM »
The is one in Puyallup I think it is call Brown Bag Ammo.  If I remember he has a sing that says $35 FFL transfer.
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Re: Death in family, 594, FFl, gun transfers advice please
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 08:09:58 AM »
With the high prices it would be worth driving to Everett.  Sound Pawn & Loan in Everett charges 15$ ffl transfers FYI.
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