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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2009, 09:56:29 PM »
You know what will happen it has happend to me before, you will practice all summer out to 70+ yards and be able to hit a bottle cap at that range and you will be in a bind and have one walk within 5 yds of you and you wont know what to do. I remeber me and a buddy where watching an alfalfa field and I watched him empty his quiver on a buck that was directly under his stand. From that point on we made a few shots every day from 5-70 yds.  :chuckle:

For angle shots we would craw up on the roof of my house. I took the ladder from him one day in August and left him up on the black roof outside the Spokane area for about 15 minutes. I thought he was going to kill me  :chuckle:
If you shoot the first one you will never get that true trophy.

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 09:42:02 PM »
You know what will happen it has happend to me before, you will practice all summer out to 70+ yards and be able to hit a bottle cap at that range and you will be in a bind and have one walk within 5 yds of you and you wont know what to do. I remeber me and a buddy where watching an alfalfa field and I watched him empty his quiver on a buck that was directly under his stand. From that point on we made a few shots every day from 5-70 yds.  :chuckle:

For angle shots we would craw up on the roof of my house. I took the ladder from him one day in August and left him up on the black roof outside the Spokane area for about 15 minutes. I thought he was going to kill me  :chuckle:   


Thats to bad for your buddy.. I know that wont happen at any range for me, Ive been lucky enough to take a animal or two and have never had bad buckfever.. shooting comps is harder on the nerves then any animal..... just get me a shot.. Ill do the rest   ;)

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2009, 08:34:44 AM »
I have the spot hog 5 pin and set up from 20-60. I definitely wouldn't want to have to dial in when an animal is close. I hunt the east side where shots are longer, I guess one pin would work fine hunting the thick country.  When I'm shooting in my back yard practicing, say at 40 yards. I count my way up the pins to 40 yd pin & then mentally check that its the right color. Every shot, part of my routine.  We have discussed this long shot theory for years, I've said before not my place to tell a dude his max range. But a 100 yard shot has an arrow flight time of 1 second @ 300 fps, and a lot can happen in that one second. One step by the animal & is gut shot, two steps and its in his ass. Seems to risky for me, I would hate to see an elk run off with my arrow in his ass. I've taken 50 yard shots ( 1/2 second flight time ) and seems like it takes along time to hit the animal, funny how when I take the shot its kind of in slow motion. my  :twocents:   Mike

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2009, 10:33:50 AM »
There is always a "what if" possibility when shooting anything.... if comes down to the situation, the person behind the weapon and the confidence they have with it..... Ive seen guys take game at 90+ with a bow with ease and have seen some at 30 have them move and hit them bad.. so is 30 now not good as well? its all a diff situation, its our job to make the best call we can or whether to shoot or not.....

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2009, 10:43:51 AM »
I agree some thirty yard shots are questionable, but just because some 30 yard shots are taken that are questionable does that means 100 yard questionable shots are ok ?. I'm with you on peoples skill level, different situations ETC. My point of " more can go wrong " with an arrow flying a 100 yards is a point that I don't think anyone can argue. That's all I'm saying, the arrow is flying a long time and there is more of a chance for it to hit a twig, animal to move, etc simply for the fact the arrow is traveling farther with all factors the same over a thirty yard shot. I would not risk it. Mike

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2009, 11:27:53 AM »
I understand what you are saying, and on a scientific level, yes that 1 sec is longer then the 1/2 sec at 50.. however, if you have never taken a shot that far all you can do is assume what might or might not happen, lets be honest.. 1 sec is not very long, most animals that are feeding undisturbed ( the ony type id ever think of taking a shot that long on) dont exactly move fast.. they stay in one place quiet a while.... with todays bows being as quiet as they are, I dont think in that 1 sec time frame much would happen aside from the arrow going into the animals chest with a well placed arrow..... but who knows.. it could move sure.... personally my farthest is 75 on a  deer, I have seen 105 on a  bull elk.. that one was not feeding, somewhat alert and still did nothing until after the arrow hit him dead center.. I think way to many people underestimate the capability of modern bows in the right archers hands and vastly overestimate the games ability to move..... just my  :twocents: however I will agree it obviously carries more inherent "risk" then a closer shot

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2009, 11:40:02 AM »
Another factor I see people overlook alot is the fact that the farther the game is from you the less likely they are to spook from the sound of your bow going off. The animals usually react to the close shots alot more because the sound is inside of the danger zone for the animal. I have heard of guys shooting at feeding blactail bucks from close range and having them jump the string and drop right under the arrow. The farther they are from the sound I believe they are less likley to react to th sound of the shot :twocents:

Anybody with experience otherwise please relate.

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2009, 09:21:12 PM »
I would agree 100% with that, at 300 ft (100yrds) most newer bows I dot think woud be heard, hell some are hard to hear 20 ft away.. no way that animal is spooking because of the bow going off.. and a by the time the sound is done, the arrow has already found its mark.... Ive seen it done, I know I can do it.... but to each their own. I have no issues with long range with a bow as long as the person behind it has the skills needed to make the shot....

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2009, 09:34:33 PM »
Well I guess I'm opening myself up hear but I have taken a doe at 89yrds with my b tag a couple years ago. BUT, there is always that but, I practice out to 90 all summer long, I don't work in the summer and on average I shoot over an hour a day and some days 3 or 4, 7 days a week. I can put 5 arrows in a pie pan at 90 so why not. I knew I would find her she was on the edge of a clear cut I could see for 1000yds beyond her, as is she only went 30 and layed down and died. Perfect heart lung, arrow sunk up to the fletching!!! She never even saw me or knew what happend. I think a person just needs to know there equipment and be confident in any shot that they make. If you are confident out to 70 great, my buddy shoots a long bow, he wont shoot past 30, good for him. Know your ability, take well placed shots, and practice.
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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2009, 09:34:39 PM »
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I currently use a six pin fiber optic sight and have had really good luck with it.

+1 You know whats nice? When you're drawn at 30 yards and every one of your 6 pins are on the animal :IBCOOL: thats how it was for me moose hunting and it was a great feeling :tup:
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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2009, 09:36:09 PM »
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I currently use a six pin fiber optic sight and have had really good luck with it.

+1 You know whats nice? When you're drawn at 30 yards and every one of your 6 pins are on the animal :IBCOOL: thats how it was for me moose hunting and it was a great feeling :tup:


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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2009, 09:48:37 PM »
I am just waiting til some genius invents an arrow that has afterburners that engage once the arrow is shot.  That way I can shoot one pin out to 300+ yards.   :P

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Re: Single pin sight or multi pin sight
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2009, 10:07:40 PM »
Well I guess I'm opening myself up hear but I have taken a doe at 89yrds with my b tag a couple years ago. BUT, there is always that but, I practice out to 90 all summer long, I don't work in the summer and on average I shoot over an hour a day and some days 3 or 4, 7 days a week. I can put 5 arrows in a pie pan at 90 so why not. I knew I would find her she was on the edge of a clear cut I could see for 1000yds beyond her, as is she only went 30 and layed down and died. Perfect heart lung, arrow sunk up to the fletching!!! She never even saw me or knew what happend. I think a person just needs to know there equipment and be confident in any shot that they make. If you are confident out to 70 great, my buddy shoots a long bow, he wont shoot past 30, good for him. Know your ability, take well placed shots, and practice.


Thats awesome, great shot! maybe when I come up we can have a broadhead shoot off? maybe put some cash down? Im always up for some fun, lose, win or tie.. your shot is a great example... burried to the fletch at 90yrds and she did not know what hit her! you practice a ton, so does anyone that will confidently take a shot that far.....

 


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