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Offline savagehunter

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2016, 10:34:02 AM »
That is what they did in oregon and the next step was draw only on the east side. I am against any regs that reduce chances to hunt.

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2016, 10:56:55 AM »
I don't think we should have to choose sides of the state for deer or elk. WE by Washington hunting licenses. They should be good for Washington.
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I understand this mindset but I personally am ok with "taking one for the team" with regards to deer numbers and overall health. A person could still hunt every year but just would have to decide where.
The three things that generally fall under management capabilities are impact of hunters, impact of predators and quality of habitat.  I'd rather the predators and habitat were tweaked first.

Predators and habitat are also vital but knowing how things are ran, predator control is not looking like a promising option. Habitat improvement is a bit more realistic but is going to take time which, sadly, isn't on our herd's side in some areas if we stay on our current path. It sucks to have gotten to this point but we can't change the past so hopefully we can not be stubborn and at least try to improve the future.  :twocents:
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2016, 11:06:38 AM »
  We don't need more regulations making it tougher to get out in the field. I am going to bet the overall success rates for this season end up being right in line with the averages of the past seasons.
  For some not seeing deer in the general seasons is not a rare happening. The majority of the deer harvest happens during the late seasons.
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2016, 11:20:17 AM »
Sounds like a bunch of guys are bitter because they didn't get it done. My vote is to leave things the way they are. Obviously there are plenty of great animals available as proved on this forum.

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2016, 11:37:18 AM »
As long as I can hunt deer and elk at the same time I don't care what the regulations are.
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2016, 10:26:11 AM »
I don't support any new restrictions on hunting. Things are confusing enough!

Btw: you're welcome to come hunt blacktail with us in the rain!  :tup:

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2016, 10:31:42 AM »
Why not have open seasons for blacktail and whitetail and permit only mule deer?

At a certain point, hunter opportunity needs to take a back seat to herd health. A lot of you guys don't realize how " on the ropes" some mule deer herds are.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2016, 10:43:22 AM »
I'm not sure that my assumption is totally correct and in some cases totally wrong.  With that said I will venture to guess that most people on this forum that are for "picking a side of the state to hunt on" are guys from the east side.  Those that want to have one tag for the entire state are usually west sider's.  Very few if any at all east sider's head west to hunt Blacktail deer.  I'm sure there are exceptions but still very few.  Lots of West sider's come east to hunt Muley's and Whitey's on the east side.  If they are unsuccessful they continue to hunt the longer and more general season for Blacktails.  I am from the eastside so I am in strong support of a pick your side rule.  Now stepping back and looking at the big picture, a draw only situation for our state like Organ has is not to feasible with the small amount of hunting areas and our huge populations of people. A compromise for our state that would help in the reduction of hunting pressure on the east and the west side would be to split the tag and make one choose.  But those who like to have their cake and eat it too outnumber the ones who are willing to sacrifice something for something better.  Just my two cents for what they are worth after 35 plus years of hunting in this state and one who like to hunt out of state also.
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2016, 10:49:18 AM »
Why not have open seasons for blacktail and whitetail and permit only mule deer?

At a certain point, hunter opportunity needs to take a back seat to herd health. A lot of you guys don't realize how " on the ropes" some mule deer herds are.

I would be fine with that.  Might help the struggling mule deer herd.
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2016, 11:01:39 AM »
Something needs to be done. The MD population has decreased each year and hunting pressure has gone up, for archery anyway. I'm from the wetside and would be all for it, something else that would help would be to open all late seasons on the same day, instead of having MD open up prior to most all other seasons.

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2016, 11:06:02 AM »
I think you're beyond the point that rifle tags need to be by permit only. This is a simple issue even for a bean counter.

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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2016, 11:07:24 AM »
I'm all for increasing deer numbers but blanket changes and increased regulation do not good bed partners make. If you wanted to go unit by unit and decide on draw only or antler restrictions, I'd be fine with that. But adding further restriction of having to pick east or west? No way. We shouldn't even have to pick the method we want to use except for certain draw circumstances. Don't ever ask for blanket restriction. Ask for better wildlife management by unit and area.
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Re: Choose a side .....????
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2016, 11:38:51 AM »
 :yeah: Well said Roger
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