Wireless Trail cameras

[cmiller85]

Does anyone have any experience with wireless trail cameras?

What are the monthly subscription fees like? Are they trackable like a cell phone in case they are stolen?

[savagehunter]

They have wired trail cams ?

[WAcoyotehunter]

Tagging along. 

[Skyvalhunter]

It all depends on the trail cam and if they require a certain provider who they are in bed with.

[Machias]

I have the HCO Spartan Gocam Noglow, Verizon version.  It is AWESOME!!!  You need 3 bars in the area you set your camera up, but I get photos even when it's showing 1 or 2 bars.  You can make adjustments right from home,  switch between photos to video, how many photos you take, the time frame, etc all without having to drive into your area.  Cost me about $8 a month and I can receive hundreds of photos.  $5 a month to Verizon per camera and $3.?? to HCO to make changes to the settings on the camera from home.  Very reasonable.  One trip saved pays for the service.  I will be buying a couple of more this winter.  They are the BOMB!!!  They are not trackable, but you instantly receive the would be thief's photo and they are pointless to steal as no one else would be able to use them.

[cmiller85]

Thanks Machias!

[Machias]

I'll post some photos tomorrow that were taken with this camera.  It's particularly great if you are 40 or 50 miles from your hunting spot.  You don't have to go in and disturb the place to see what activity is happening or making changes to your settings.

[Bango skank]

Im probably going to buy a bushnell aggressor cell cam.  It should get enough of a signal up on top of my hill, so i can test it out for a while at home before i take it out into some remote area.

[Machias]

Sorry to be so slow in posting the photos.

[Smossy]

To my knowledge direct uplink camera's are illegal in this state. Considered unfair chase.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I don't see anything in the regs about game cans.

@bigtex

[MtnMuley]

They are NOT illegal. Lot's of guys using them here.

[Smossy]

Don't remember exactly where I read it, Ill look around and see If I can find something. I could be wrong but I was wanting to get one and came across information saying they were illegal in washington state.

They are NOT illegal. Lot's of guys using them here.

I understand, Lots of guys still baiting bear to. Just saying.

[MtnMuley]

That's a pathetic comparison. Good luck with your search. To the best of my knowledge, I usually don't post false info on public forums then argue when I'm wrong.

Once again, wireless cel cams are LEGAL for us here in Washington to use.

[Smossy]

That's a pathetic comparison. Good luck with your search. To the best of my knowledge, I usually don't post false info on public forums then argue when I'm wrong.

Once again, wireless cel cams are LEGAL for us here in Washington to use.

Testy testy. No wonder hunt wa has went to crap. People like you. Simply trying to share information that was "the best of my knowledge" which does not mean  it was the truth. If they are legal, which I cant find any information now on it.. I stand humbly corrected. Relax.

[Smossy]

I myself would love to use one.

[Becky]

That's a pathetic comparison. Good luck with your search. To the best of my knowledge, I usually don't post false info on public forums then argue when I'm wrong.

Once again, wireless cel cams are LEGAL for us here in Washington to use.

Geeze, I don't see how he was arguing for "being wrong"... I think what he was talking about was something we read in Montana, where it is illegal to use:
"It is illegal for a person to possess or use in the field any electronic or camera device whose purpose is to scout the location of game animals or relay the information on a game animal’s location or movement during any Commission-adopted hunting season."

Also as a bowhunter, something else we read:

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

[Wacenturion]

Agree with Machias.  I am running two HCO Spartan no glow cameras on my property.  Pretty well please with them.  Plan on adding at least one or two more. 

[Machias]

LOVE the bear photo!!!!!!!!

[Wacenturion]

LOVE the bear photo!!!!!!!!

Machias....If you liked that one of the bear, you'll love this sequence.  Last shot after he had put tripod feeder on the ground and happened to be right next to the cam looking back at it.  After that I decided to put a pole feeder up there.

[Machias]

 

[Brushcrawler]

Great bear sequence!
I highly recommend the Bushnell Aggressor. You get hundreds of photos per month and can buy only the time you want (month-to-month) directly from Bushnell. Basic package is 9.99/month. Good quality day or night, and settings can be adjusted wirelessly if the exposure is wrong. Just don't put one where it will get stolen - way too expensive to put someplace public.

[Hunting7mm]

Great bear sequence!
I highly recommend the Bushnell Aggressor. You get hundreds of photos per month and can buy only the time you want (month-to-month) directly from Bushnell. Basic package is 9.99/month. Good quality day or night, and settings can be adjusted wirelessly if the exposure is wrong. Just don't put one where it will get stolen - way too expensive to put someplace public.

I'd really like to purchase one or two as well but they are expensive and from my experience on our own property as well as leased land if they can be seen they can be stolen.  Chalk it up to experience.  From now on right before the season I'm posting my cameras about 15' up in trees. Trespassers don't care about the signs you post.

[davk]

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?

[cmiller85]

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras?  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?
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Ah that's a bummer but I guess I get it. It could be abused.

[Machias]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

[Mark Brenckle]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

[whacker1]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Wouldn't want your cocktails and shooting the breeze interrupted by sitting in a stand in hopes they might come by.   I like to put them in sequence on the trail, so that I get alerted when they walk by the first cam, so that I know I have 20 minutes to get to the 2nd or 3rd camera down the trail......   In all seriousness I am just tagging along.  I have heard great things about the Bushnell, but I have been too cheap to pull the trigger.

[Bango skank]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Anybody who will go to such great lengths to be a lazy hunter will find a way, regardless.  I dont see how thats any worse than guys who just kick back in their truck driving around all day eating mcdonalds and doritos and pitching beer cans and ciggy butts out the window until they get a chance to jump out of their truck and shoot something so that they can do a grip n grin photo decked out in their best seat-cover-matching camo.

[baker5150]

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?

This is a ridiculous stance by B&C.

What about guys who have property in other states?  Or countries?
I get that it can be abused during season, but the easy way around it is to limit their use for entry to outside of season, not just generally.

[davk]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Exactly that.  Along with slightly more involved versions of the same concept.  Basically they can be used to alert a "hunter" of game in the area.   The use you explain is exactly where I would benefit greatly from them and see them as a huge plus.  I really dont understand the reason why B&C would not accept animals taken with the use in scouting.  Not that I would personally give a ... if an animal I killed was in a record book.  Unless they have a very broad definition of scouting which would cover any sort of non actively hunting activities during the hunting season or something.  Like hunting unit A and having a camera in unit B.  Getting a picture from the camera in unit B is considered scouting ... and then you drive to unit B to hunt that animal.

[davk]

Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?

This is a ridiculous stance by B&C.

What about guys who have property in other states?  Or countries?
I get that it can be abused during season, but the easy way around it is to limit their use for entry to outside of season, not just generally.

Yeah I feel the exact same way.  I don't get the idea behind it.  I guess if you don't have an abundance of excess time, your not a true hunter.

[Machias]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

   ok....

[Mark Brenckle]

I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!

  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

   ok....

Honestly I just made that up, I've never looked into it.   

[Machias]

 

[Becky]

I know there's a law about any type of flying/drone use/scouting or even being up in the air on the same day you hunt. I don't remember the wording. I think in some states that prohibit live-feed cameras, it's along those lines, being notified immediately without you physically being there to see the animal yourself.

I'm not against using them, just posting the information we've read about them in the past is all.