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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2016, 04:03:15 PM »
I myself would love to use one.
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2016, 11:58:29 PM »
That's a pathetic comparison. Good luck with your search. To the best of my knowledge, I usually don't post false info on public forums then argue when I'm wrong.

Once again, wireless cel cams are LEGAL for us here in Washington to use.
Geeze, I don't see how he was arguing for "being wrong"... I think what he was talking about was something we read in Montana, where it is illegal to use:
"It is illegal for a person to possess or use in the field any electronic or camera device whose purpose is to scout the location of game animals or relay the information on a game animal’s location or movement during any Commission-adopted hunting season."

Also as a bowhunter, something else we read:
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Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2016, 08:01:36 AM »
Agree with Machias.  I am running two HCO Spartan no glow cameras on my property.  Pretty well please with them.  Plan on adding at least one or two more. 
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2016, 08:41:20 AM »
LOVE the bear photo!!!!!!!!
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2016, 08:47:13 AM »
LOVE the bear photo!!!!!!!!

Machias....If you liked that one of the bear, you'll love this sequence.  Last shot after he had put tripod feeder on the ground and happened to be right next to the cam looking back at it.  After that I decided to put a pole feeder up there.:chuckle:
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2016, 03:32:06 PM »
 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2016, 03:42:42 PM »
Great bear sequence!
I highly recommend the Bushnell Aggressor. You get hundreds of photos per month and can buy only the time you want (month-to-month) directly from Bushnell. Basic package is 9.99/month. Good quality day or night, and settings can be adjusted wirelessly if the exposure is wrong. Just don't put one where it will get stolen - way too expensive to put someplace public.
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2016, 04:00:57 PM »
Great bear sequence!
I highly recommend the Bushnell Aggressor. You get hundreds of photos per month and can buy only the time you want (month-to-month) directly from Bushnell. Basic package is 9.99/month. Good quality day or night, and settings can be adjusted wirelessly if the exposure is wrong. Just don't put one where it will get stolen - way too expensive to put someplace public.

I'd really like to purchase one or two as well but they are expensive and from my experience on our own property as well as leased land if they can be seen they can be stolen.  Chalk it up to experience.  From now on right before the season I'm posting my cameras about 15' up in trees. Trespassers don't care about the signs you post.
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2016, 05:01:00 PM »
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Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2016, 05:48:23 PM »
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Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”
There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras?  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?
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Ah that's a bummer but I guess I get it. It could be abused.

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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2016, 12:18:03 PM »
I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2016, 12:23:43 PM »
I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!
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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2016, 12:27:31 PM »
I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!
  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Wouldn't want your cocktails and shooting the breeze interrupted by sitting in a stand in hopes they might come by.   I like to put them in sequence on the trail, so that I get alerted when they walk by the first cam, so that I know I have 20 minutes to get to the 2nd or 3rd camera down the trail...... :chuckle:  In all seriousness I am just tagging along.  I have heard great things about the Bushnell, but I have been too cheap to pull the trigger.

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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2016, 12:28:26 PM »
I guess I have a poor imagination, can someone explain to me how they can be abused?  The only real advantage is I don't have to drive 100 miles or further to check them and I don't have to leave my scent in the area to check them.  Other than that can someone explain the thinking behind unfair advantage.  Thanks!
  By putting 4 or 5 out in an area and kicking back at camp and waiting for your prey to pass by one of them.

Anybody who will go to such great lengths to be a lazy hunter will find a way, regardless.  I dont see how thats any worse than guys who just kick back in their truck driving around all day eating mcdonalds and doritos and pitching beer cans and ciggy butts out the window until they get a chance to jump out of their truck and shoot something so that they can do a grip n grin photo decked out in their best seat-cover-matching camo.

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Re: Wireless Trail cameras
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2016, 12:28:32 PM »
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Boone and Crockett Club and the Pope and Young Club. According to the presidents of both B&C (Tony Schoonen) and P&Y (Jim Willems), neither have any issue with the use of traditional trail cameras that require hunters to visit the camera site to retrieve data cards or film (as far as fair chase goes). But, both oppose the use of cameras that transmit images directly to a location where they may be viewed by a hunter. Animals taken with the use of a direct transmit camera are not eligible for inclusion in their record books. Schoonen relayed this statement:

“Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, are eligible for entry in B&C, but only if the hunter has to manually remove film and/or a card from the trail camera itself to retrieve the images. Trophies taken with the use of trail cameras, including scouting, that transmit images to a computer/base station for viewing are not eligible for entry in B&C.”

There is clearly a way for these to be abused during hunting season, but I don't get the opposition to them otherwise.  I wish people would have more of an open mind.  I have to dedicate entire days, if not entire weekends, and put in 20+ miles to check my cameras.  Should I claim not fair chase for people who hunt private land and can check all their cameras before their morning cup of coffee gets cold?

This is a ridiculous stance by B&C.

What about guys who have property in other states?  Or countries?
I get that it can be abused during season, but the easy way around it is to limit their use for entry to outside of season, not just generally.

 


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