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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #120 on: December 05, 2016, 09:17:14 AM »
So the real question is..   are eye guards considered points or no.   In like a spike only unit.   Or a 3pt min, could he have a split main with a 2" browtine and be legal ?
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #121 on: December 05, 2016, 09:17:20 AM »
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #123 on: December 05, 2016, 09:28:05 AM »
Because it originates less than four inches from the base it's not a point...  but the opposite argument would need to be made to shoot a bull with a fork and a eye guard less than four inches from the skull and call it a three point. Is it cause the spike only rule is the only place the four inch from the base verbiage is mentioned? 

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #124 on: December 05, 2016, 09:52:36 AM »
Looks like a 2x6  :dunno:
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Where are you seeing a second point?
eyeguard
It doesn't count as a point unless it originates more than four inches from the skull. Are you believing it does?
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #125 on: December 05, 2016, 10:00:55 AM »
Actually, the real question should be:

 Is he dead yet?   :dunno:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #126 on: December 05, 2016, 10:08:58 AM »
"Spike Bull Antler Restrictions: Bull elk taken in spike-only game management units (GMUs) must have at least one antler with no branches originating more than 4 inches above where the antler attaches to the skull."

Looking at the photo, the elk does not appear to have a branch originating more than four inches from the skull, particularly on its right side antler. That would make it a legal spike.

Is this typical in other states or is this another example of regulations which are very confusing here in WA?
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #127 on: December 05, 2016, 10:16:03 AM »
So a 3 point can be a spike(eastern)  and a 3 point (western)  is not a 3 point unless it forks past 4 inches.  So a 3x6 is a legal Spike and a 3x3 might not be a legal 3 point.  It's not that confusing but I can't say I completely agree with the ideology. 

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #128 on: December 05, 2016, 10:28:38 AM »
To be a legal 3 point he has to have 2 points above the ear. So a spike with double eyeguards would not be legal! But as long as both eyeguards are less then 4inches from the base, he could be a legal spike

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #129 on: December 05, 2016, 11:11:34 AM »
To make it clear for everyone, I wish they would add 1 page to the regs showing various antler configurations that are labeled legal and illegal.  I believe Oregon does this.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #130 on: December 05, 2016, 11:45:41 AM »
Actually, the real question should be:

 Is he dead yet?   :dunno:
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #131 on: December 05, 2016, 11:46:43 AM »
Is that when the ears are standing straight up or pointed sideways? Would a gamie take the ear and pull it up next to the antler? Ridiculous, really.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #132 on: December 05, 2016, 11:55:43 AM »
Is that when the ears are standing straight up or pointed sideways? Would a gamie take the ear and pull it up next to the antler? Ridiculous, really.
I remember and participated in  the dumpster fire on here a couple weeks or months ago going over just what that rule means.  :chuckle:

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #133 on: December 05, 2016, 12:02:50 PM »
Several years ago, the definition for a 3 point elk included a length. Pretty hard to judge whether an antler is 4" or not, especially when hunting in wet and brushy conditions.  I knew a hunter who shot an elk with the third tine measuring 3.5" inches, and was cited.

"3 Point Minimum Elk: A 3 Pt. min. elk means that a legal elk in these GMUs must have at least 3 antler points on one side only. Antler points may include eye guards, but antler points on the lower half of either main beam must be at least four (4) inches long, measured from antler tip to nearest edge of beam."
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #134 on: December 05, 2016, 12:29:26 PM »
What's the reason for differentiating eye guards from other antler times?

 


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