Handgun choice

[grundy53]

I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. 

The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis

Median = 2
Average = 2

Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors of high standard capacity magazines that will  tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver   

What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.

Then I'll go Jerry Mitchulek on them 

I bet....

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[coachcw]

m&p 40 or a light weight revolver in 38 or 357.

[b23]

I suppose if a person is that concerned about having plenty of ammo you could get a KelTec PMR30.  If you carry a spare mag, have a full mag in the gun and one in the pipe, that'll give you 61 rounds to shoot and still weigh less than most Glocks. 

[Bean Counter]

If you put 61 rounds in someone, they'll probably bleed out faster than if you shoot them 5 times... And I could also wear body armor and fireproof clothing everywhere I go and put my kids in foam helmets. Its all about risk assessment vs practicality.

Odds are I'll never need my weapon for self defense
If it does come out, the bad guy will likely run off at its presentation.
If I do fire, its not likely to be more than a half a dozen shots.
If I do win the odds lottery and I'm present at Costco/Walmart for a Charlie Hebdo style attack, my family is better served by us making a break for the fire escape rather than pressing the threat. Its really a question of  proximity and routes of egress when the shooting begins. Going after a couple of  highly committed active shooters with sport utility rifles isn't going to be end much better for me with a bottom feeding pistol w/2x 30 round magazines than a classic wheel gun. 

[thinkingman]

I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. 

The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis

Median = 2
Average = 2

Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors of high standard capacity magazines that will  tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver   

What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.

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Because packing a doublestack is twice or more as difficult as a singlestack.
OP-Kahr PM9.
If 7 won't solve your problem, 15 probably won't.

[b23]

Bean, I'm with you on that which is why one of the first CCW I suggest no matter if it's a man or women, is something like the S&W 442 or Ruger LCR, mostly because of their size and the easier it is to throw in your pocket the more likely you are to always have it on/with you.

[Bean Counter]

I have no problem carrying more rounds than less. I DO have a problem with a platform that is built around myriad compromises and trades a critical feature I demand (reliability) for a feature I am not likely to need (high capacity). 

[grundy53]

I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. 

The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis

Median = 2
Average = 2

Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors of high standard capacity magazines that will  tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver   

What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.

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Because packing a doublestack is twice or more as difficult as a singlestack.
OP-Kahr PM9.
If 7 won't solve your problem, 15 probably won't.

I carry a single stack also. But spare magazines are a lot easier to carry then moon clips/speed loaders.

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[Jburke]

LC9s

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Except I have the older version LC9

[huntnphool]

Lots of good stuff here. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,197100.msg2616319.html#msg2616319

[luteai]

If you in the Spokane area stop by Sharp Shooting on Freya. They rent pistols to try out (at least they did 15 years ago) Double Eagle pawn on Francis has a great selection of hand guns. Go find the ones that feel right and then read about the pistols you liked and how to conceal them. A .32 acp in your pocket is better than a .45 acp left at home because its uncomfortable to carry...

[T-Dozzer]

I have a G19 & G26.
The 26 can take the 19 mags.
Have a fullsize 1911 but is too heavy to pack around.

[Jburke]

If you in the Spokane area stop by Sharp Shooting on Freya. They rent pistols to try out (at least they did 15 years ago) Double Eagle pawn on Francis has a great selection of hand guns. Go find the ones that feel right and then read about the pistols you liked and how to conceal them. A .32 acp in your pocket is better than a .45 acp left at home because its uncomfortable to carry...

They do still rent guns and on Friday as well as Monday evenings they have a 2 for 1 special on range fees and include free gun rentals(you must buy their ammo to use their guns).

[Mongo Hunter]

I carry a Glock 26 everyday and a Ruger LCP2 for a backup.

Yeah I'm one of "those" guys that carries 2 guns. My work and living situation though makes this the best option for me, not necessarily everyone. But the best advice I can give you is this:

Rules:
1. Carry the gun.
2. Needs to be as close to 100% reliable as possible (no gun is 100%).
3. Practice, practice, practice.

So in the world we live in now the single stack 9's rule, and there's good reason. People normally make 1 of 2 mistakes when buying a CCW. either they buy too big and they don't want to carry it beyond the honeymoon period (see rule number 1). Or they buy too small and never practice with it (see rule number 3). Single stack 9's give you the best of easy to carry and not horrible to shoot.

so in my long winded response look at the Glock 43 or the S&W shield. cant go wrong with either and there's no safeties or magazine disconnects to worry about.

[Booner]

Walther pps m2 9mm for me and Glock G43 for the wife.

I shot the Walther much better than the Glock. My wife shot them both better than me lol but she chose the Glock because it was lighter.

For what it's worth (and per Mongo's post) I also have an XDM 3.8c in 9mm, I only carry that in the winter months because it's more difficult to conceal and heavier (not fun) than the Walther...that's why I bought the Walther for the other 9 months. Hardly know I have it on with the stealthgear iwb holster.

Best advice so far... Try them first both my wife and I hated the M&P. Up north, Norpoint has a very good selection of rental guns.


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