collapse

Advertisement


Poll

Do you support NON magnifying scopes for muzzle loaders?

Yes
76 (38%)
No
124 (62%)

Total Members Voted: 200

Voting closed: June 20, 2017, 08:19:14 AM

Author Topic: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?  (Read 47901 times)

Offline Oh Mah

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2015
  • Posts: 6614
  • Location: region 3 Montana
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #255 on: March 26, 2017, 08:59:19 PM »
Sorry one more thing i'm getting out of this conversation for the last because it is far from honest,I will however come back to it to see if anyone can be honest enough with themselves to get in on this and back up some of what i said.not only on my opinions but on this 380 yard shot yarn and the comments made by the both of you on it.
"Boss of the woods"
(this is in reference to the biggie not me).

Offline Bob33

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2009
  • Posts: 21774
  • Groups: SCI, RMEF, NRA, Hunter Education
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #256 on: March 26, 2017, 08:59:57 PM »
now i have seen it all im done.
That's last what: 5 minutes?
Nature. It's cheaper than therapy.

Offline BULLBLASTER

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+15)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2008
  • Posts: 8104
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #257 on: March 26, 2017, 09:01:21 PM »
Sorry one more thing i'm getting out of this conversation for the last because it is far from honest,I will however come back to it to see if anyone can be honest enough with themselves to get in on this and back up some of what i said.not only on my opinions but on this 380 yard shot yarn and the comments made by the both of you on it.
How long will you be gone this time? Is this what the 3rd or 4th time you've been done with this thread?

Offline Karl Blanchard

  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 10682
  • Location: Selah, WA
  • Jonathan_S hunting apparel prostaff
  • Groups: Sitka Gear Fan Boy for LIFE
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #258 on: March 26, 2017, 09:07:29 PM »
Sorry one more thing i'm getting out of this conversation for the last because it is far from honest,I will however come back to it to see if anyone can be honest enough with themselves to get in on this and back up some of what i said.not only on my opinions but on this 380 yard shot yarn and the comments made by the both of you on it.
  how is it a yarn?  Don't beat around the bush, you're calling me a lyer. By your comments you OBVIOUSLY have little experience with muzzleloaders.  I never said it was a calculated, accurate shot.  I said we had a deer that needed another bullet so he hail mary'd one and connected.  Whole point of the story was to point out how effective one of those big slow slugs still is at longer distances.  That bullet wasn't tumbling yet because it expanded some.  With a scope that is no doubt a shot that could be made with an accurate gun and skilled shooter.  LITERALLY guys are doing it and then some.  Youtube it.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn these men.  Rather, we should thank god that such men lived.  -General George S. Patton

Aaron's Profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2875
Aaron's Posts:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2875
Aaron's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aaron.blanchard.94

Offline Skillet

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+43)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 5848
  • Location: Sitka, AK
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #259 on: March 26, 2017, 09:08:29 PM »
I don't think BLRMAN shared that anecdote as a repeatable shot, but rather as a one-time desperation hail mary that anchored a a wounded deer. It was meant to show that the muzzleloader is lethal far beyond what is considered normal range for open-sighted muzzleloaders.

What does it matter what the drop at that range is?  Has nothing at all to do with the point of the anecdote, or the point of this thread.  :dunno:

Edited to add:  You totally stole my thunder Karl. :chuckle:
KABOOM Count - 1

"The ocean is calling, and I must go."

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
     - Gordon Lightfoot

Offline Karl Blanchard

  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 10682
  • Location: Selah, WA
  • Jonathan_S hunting apparel prostaff
  • Groups: Sitka Gear Fan Boy for LIFE
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #260 on: March 26, 2017, 09:11:28 PM »
I don't think BLRMAN shared that anecdote as a repeatable shot, but rather as a one-time desperation hail mary that anchored a a wounded deer. It was meant to show that the muzzleloader is lethal far beyond what is considered normal range for open-sighted muzzleloaders.

What does it matter what the drop at that range is?  Has nothing at all to do with the point of the anecdote, or the point of this thread.  :dunno:
THANK YOU!!!!!  I've been scratching my head trying to figure out why he keeps arguing it.  Thought maybe I worded it strange or something.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn these men.  Rather, we should thank god that such men lived.  -General George S. Patton

Aaron's Profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2875
Aaron's Posts:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2875
Aaron's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aaron.blanchard.94

Offline Curly

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 20921
  • Location: Thurston County
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #261 on: March 26, 2017, 09:21:27 PM »
bull.this fight was over inlines only a couple years ago.inline were fought by people that did not think they were primitive enough all goes together in this thread,i will keep arguing for hunters that want to change the sport for the better.i dont want the fight i want all hunters to work together.the hunters that want their way and only their way for no good reason is a problem
Btw your last sentence perfectly describes you

 :yeah:
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.

><((((º>` ><((((º>. ><((((º>.¸><((((º>

Offline Karl Blanchard

  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 10682
  • Location: Selah, WA
  • Jonathan_S hunting apparel prostaff
  • Groups: Sitka Gear Fan Boy for LIFE
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #262 on: March 26, 2017, 09:46:03 PM »
Not relevant to the topic but thought it was a cool video, some real data, and some impressive shooting

It is foolish and wrong to mourn these men.  Rather, we should thank god that such men lived.  -General George S. Patton

Aaron's Profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2875
Aaron's Posts:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2875
Aaron's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aaron.blanchard.94

Offline Karl Blanchard

  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 10682
  • Location: Selah, WA
  • Jonathan_S hunting apparel prostaff
  • Groups: Sitka Gear Fan Boy for LIFE
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #263 on: March 26, 2017, 09:48:50 PM »
And more on topic.  When you continue to allow tech creep into our primitive weapons, you end up with modern rifles.  How many late season general seasons do you think we would get if this was more the norm?  Otc doe  hunts? 

It is foolish and wrong to mourn these men.  Rather, we should thank god that such men lived.  -General George S. Patton

Aaron's Profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2875
Aaron's Posts:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2875
Aaron's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aaron.blanchard.94

Offline TONTO

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 1018
  • Location: Longview,WA
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #264 on: March 26, 2017, 09:57:54 PM »
This thread has really gotten off course. My apologies to the op.  :sry:
dont.  He made me listen to John Denver at the Northwest Mountain Challenge!  He deserves all the derailing we can muster :chuckle:

 That John Denver is full of $&@% !,.....but then again so is the thread :dunno:

Offline trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 19718
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #265 on: March 27, 2017, 07:06:45 AM »
This thread has really gotten off course. My apologies to the op.  :sry:
dont.  He made me listen to John Denver at the Northwest Mountain Challenge!  He deserves all the derailing we can muster :chuckle:
Lol, ok, how about some johnny Cash this year?  Or Iron Maiden?   :chuckle:
“In common with”..... not so much!!

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7105
  • Location: Mukilteo
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #266 on: March 27, 2017, 07:46:45 AM »

Offline Karl Blanchard

  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Aug 2008
  • Posts: 10682
  • Location: Selah, WA
  • Jonathan_S hunting apparel prostaff
  • Groups: Sitka Gear Fan Boy for LIFE
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #267 on: March 27, 2017, 07:58:19 AM »
This thread has really gotten off course. My apologies to the op.  :sry:
dont.  He made me listen to John Denver at the Northwest Mountain Challenge!  He deserves all the derailing we can muster :chuckle:
Lol, ok, how about some johnny Cash this year?  Or Iron Maiden?   :chuckle:
haha!  I'll never say no to Johnny cash :chuckle:
It is foolish and wrong to mourn these men.  Rather, we should thank god that such men lived.  -General George S. Patton

Aaron's Profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2875
Aaron's Posts:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2875
Aaron's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aaron.blanchard.94

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50449
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #268 on: March 27, 2017, 08:24:26 AM »
What about the guy who can't draw a bow...should he have accommodations made just because he wants to hunt the archery season or should he pick up a rifle?
If he can't draw a bow due to disabilities, accommodations are made. He can use a crossbow during archery seasons.  :twocents:

You got me. I totally spaced this out. Flush my thoughts down the toilet. I'll be twisting turrets on my 1x muzzy scope before sundown(see what I did there?)

:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50449
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
Re: Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?
« Reply #269 on: March 27, 2017, 08:26:27 AM »
now i have seen it all im done.
That's last what: 5 minutes?

Actually he made it 8 minutes.
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Scotty High Performance Downriggers by pickardjw
[Today at 11:08:24 PM]


Berry Report? by JDArms1240
[Today at 11:02:22 PM]


I'm in the mood for a new spotting scope. by dreadi
[Today at 10:59:30 PM]


What are your macros for extended hunts by jackelope
[Today at 10:56:54 PM]


Big ol’ sow by Bearhunter308
[Today at 09:38:36 PM]


Pinks! by metlhead
[Today at 08:14:31 PM]


Bear Meat Care after the shot by Kingofthemountain83
[Today at 05:42:46 PM]


More Kings! by Mfowl
[Today at 05:36:41 PM]


501-LINCOLN /ADA by bobcat
[Today at 05:21:59 PM]


2025 NWTF South Sound Strutters Banquet by wadu1
[Today at 04:51:38 PM]


Did you notice the new bear hunting rules? by EnglishSetter
[Today at 12:56:36 PM]


PSA - Dog Immune System Health Disease I'd never heard of by CaNINE
[Today at 11:35:30 AM]


Multi Season leftovers by trophyhunt
[Today at 10:37:24 AM]


1st bear of the season for us. by pashok23
[Today at 10:25:57 AM]


It's Starting by Ridgerunner
[Today at 09:28:42 AM]


High buck hunt by boneaddict
[Today at 08:41:08 AM]


Scope/mount options Ruger Ranch 5.56 by dreadi
[Yesterday at 11:06:00 PM]


Grand Ronde Archery by rainsman
[Yesterday at 08:07:39 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal