Governor Inslee Signed New Law To Keep Wolf Attacks Out Of Public View

[Roundhead]

So how is the public supposed to accept the statistics of wolf related incidents?
Lets say 20 people actually reported wolf attacks and/or dangerous encounters this year.
Where and how is that data available?
Are we going to accept the numbers reported by WDFW without facts?
What if you're a rancher who had reported a dozen livestock kills but you have no idea about the other ranches around your area?

I think this is a feel good withdraw law that benefits the wolves identities than it is to protect people.
We need to deal with the issue/problem and find the root cause, not hide from it and hope that the problem goes away.
Take threats seriously, investigate them, and bring them to justice.

The reports are still there. They just don't have names attached to them. Where's the problem?

As far as where the reports are stored, where you can find the info, whether or not they actually get reported....that's got nothing to do with this law.
Apples and oranges.

So you have total trust and taking the reports from WDFW as valid information?
What ever WDFW say, goes, is that it?

[bearpaw]

So how is the public supposed to accept the statistics of wolf related incidents?
Lets say 20 people actually reported wolf attacks and/or dangerous encounters this year.
Where and how is that data available?
Are we going to accept the numbers reported by WDFW without facts?
What if you're a rancher who had reported a dozen livestock kills but you have no idea about the other ranches around your area?

I think this is a feel good withdraw law that benefits the wolves identities than it is to protect people.
We need to deal with the issue/problem and find the root cause, not hide from it and hope that the problem goes away.
Take threats seriously, investigate them, and bring them to justice.

The reports are still there. They just don't have names attached to them. Where's the problem?

As far as where the reports are stored, where you can find the info, whether or not they actually get reported....that's got nothing to do with this law.
Apples and oranges.

So you have total trust and taking the reports from WDFW as valid information?
What ever WDFW say, goes, is that it?

You're way off base and twisting what jackelope said.
This legislation was created by our local legislators here in the NE to try and protect the ranchers who have losses and then have lunatics threatening them. It's too bad you can't see past your hatred of WDFW to recognize the benefit of protecting the identity of these ranchers who have already suffered due to wolf impacts. 

[pianoman9701]

Don't feed the trolls.

[Roundhead]

So how is the public supposed to accept the statistics of wolf related incidents?
Lets say 20 people actually reported wolf attacks and/or dangerous encounters this year.
Where and how is that data available?
Are we going to accept the numbers reported by WDFW without facts?
What if you're a rancher who had reported a dozen livestock kills but you have no idea about the other ranches around your area?

I think this is a feel good withdraw law that benefits the wolves identities than it is to protect people.
We need to deal with the issue/problem and find the root cause, not hide from it and hope that the problem goes away.
Take threats seriously, investigate them, and bring them to justice.

The reports are still there. They just don't have names attached to them. Where's the problem?

As far as where the reports are stored, where you can find the info, whether or not they actually get reported....that's got nothing to do with this law.
Apples and oranges.

So you have total trust and taking the reports from WDFW as valid information?
What ever WDFW say, goes, is that it?

You're way off base and twisting what jackelope said.
This legislation was created by our local legislators here in the NE to try and protect the ranchers who have losses and then have lunatics threatening them. It's too bad you can't see past your hatred of WDFW to recognize the benefit of protecting the identity of these ranchers who have already suffered due to wolf impacts. 

I understand all that as a given and basis for this law.
Now I'm just asking a simple question, are we going to trust WDFW to deliver the accurate quality and quantity of reports?
It's not hatred for me, it is the trust that I never had with WDFW.

[wolfbait]

So how is the public supposed to accept the statistics of wolf related incidents?
Lets say 20 people actually reported wolf attacks and/or dangerous encounters this year.
Where and how is that data available?
Are we going to accept the numbers reported by WDFW without facts?
What if you're a rancher who had reported a dozen livestock kills but you have no idea about the other ranches around your area?

I think this is a feel good withdraw law that benefits the wolves identities than it is to protect people.
We need to deal with the issue/problem and find the root cause, not hide from it and hope that the problem goes away.
Take threats seriously, investigate them, and bring them to justice.

The reports are still there. They just don't have names attached to them. Where's the problem?

As far as where the reports are stored, where you can find the info, whether or not they actually get reported....that's got nothing to do with this law.
Apples and oranges.

So you have total trust and taking the reports from WDFW as valid information?
What ever WDFW say, goes, is that it?

You're way off base and twisting what jackelope said.
This legislation was created by our local legislators here in the NE to try and protect the ranchers who have losses and then have lunatics threatening them. It's too bad you can't see past your hatred of WDFW to recognize the benefit of protecting the identity of these ranchers who have already suffered due to wolf impacts. 

I understand all that as a given and basis for this law.
Now I'm just asking a simple question, are we going to trust WDFW to deliver the accurate quality and quantity of reports?
It's not hatred for me, it is the trust that I never had with WDFW.

WDFW have never been Honest on the wolf program even before the first wolf pack was confirmed, this law will not change that. There has never been and will never be any accountability of the WDFW, you get what they and their environmental partners choose to give you.

This law won't matter in that department.

[Mudman]

I hope this helps the people impacted.  I hope it isn't used as a negative tool by others.  It seems that is all a man is left with these days-HOPE.  Now I understand why Obamas slogan was so effective.

[Roundhead]

WDFW operates the best in the shade; the less transparent the better. Just look at our fisheries. They deal with the tribes behind doors in private and we have nothing to say. Hell, we can't even be in the same room listening and their conversations aren't even recorded and broadcasted. So this wolf issue is a win-win for WDFW to slowly shut the door of transparencies.
Oh well you get what you ask for.

[wolfbait]

WDFW operates the best in the shade; the less transparent the better. Just look at our fisheries. They deal with the tribes behind doors in private and we have nothing to say. Hell, we can't even be in the same room listening and their conversations aren't even recorded and broadcasted. So this wolf issue is a win-win for WDFW to slowly shut the door of transparencies.
Oh well you get what you ask for.

WDFW won the wolf issue when they past their bogus wolf plan, there has never been any transparency with them and there never will be. WDFW are not game managers they are running a no hunting campaign promoting and protecting predators, with the backing of the USFWS.

Hunt while you can.